Levelling in ARR

[schism]

Strallaalaa you are right. Its sad to see SE go the popular route. You know all these ppl crying about exp parties will be all for it when its the optimal way of gaining exp. I sure hope it is. As im beta testing ill be bringing this up alot I just hope they listen.

[Mortechai]

will yoshi-p made it very clear that grind party would just not work in 2.0 and that what we going by. So if quest,dungeon,leve quest give way more exp a hour then grind party then that what people going to do is simple be in town /sh dumb shit while waiting for dungeon finder to find them a party not if there something else we don't know yet about getting exp that how i see things going quest and dungeon which i don't mind i can care less i stop careing about grind party long time ago it good to get in with the times and stop bitching about stuff you can't control like so many people on here so ya i agree people complain for noting.

That is the most rediculous run on sentence I have ever read. Unintelligibility has taken on a whole new meaning. Sakes!

[Mortechai]

Instead of asking for group quests and a large variety of group dungeons... people ask for boring grind parties. I'm still not sure why there are so, so many people asking for ancient outdated and boring game design.

This. Anyone who was alive in that era will remember how we leveled in EQ1. Hours upon hours of grind parties. Form group, go to camp, set up camp(buffs etc.), pull mobs to camp, kill mobs, rinse, repeat....ad nauseum. What, you're level capped? Ok, go grind some AA's. Just dinged your 100th or so AA? Have another couple hundred. Really....we don't need to go back to EQ1 style party grinding as the only acceptable method for grinding levels. I'am agreeing with you Wolfie, just in case .


P.S. This means multiple forms of gathering exp need to be viable.

[Zumi]

so wait killing mobs is boring? sorry but most don't read the quests, so what we got is people running around collecting quests they don't read and running around zones to kill a couple of mobs that even in ffxiv looks like they are no dynamics to the fight at all, let alone other mmo's since ffxi. so how they heck do you say that the vise versa is boring. in grind groups your doing what lots consider fun, killing monsters. lots of people don't need breaks to check on there kids or give there wives a smooch every 5minutes in between playing and lets not kid ourselves its the breaks between each quest that is more reason a reason to like quests then anything. if you need to trick your mind by thinking yaay there is a reason to kill mobs then i don't know what to say. most don't need to, just pretend it's the same reason from every frigin game in creation lol. chose a class that suits you, pick a class to solo with (bst,pup,smn) pick brd to run around pulling mobs, many other classes are dynamic and need to pay lots of attention too, or easy crap like warrior. (i'm taking ffxi as an example) but you get the point, every class doesn't need to be the same right? that is like saying everyone deserves the same boring crap you want in a game cause one has an arrow and one doesn't.

in the end i love grinds simply cause 1. i get to party with a bunch of people, it is almost always different people but hey you can also do it with the same people i know lots that do that. heck i did leve linking with the same group all way to 50 on a good 4classes. (it was boring and why i hate the direction this game is going) ffxi i felt like i knew half or more of the server cause of this and large scale events.

2. no down time ...i don't need breaks every 5minutes. i love that i don't need to run around collecting quests, that is solo stuff from rpg games that i want to do only on rainy days. not be part of the main leveling. it becomes more important that way too, i can take my time and read the story and enjoy it when i don't feel like leveling or doing events. time put in, is time put in. same thing, just preference.

3. for sure helps create a better community, you can't be a dick to much in a mmo where you need 8players to level, or a full linkshell of 30-64 people to do an event. people are nice, they work together, they talk and have fun. if you run out on a group, people take notice, if your an ass people take notice. it's not solo people in same area, it's a party in an area full of parties.

calling this old way obsolete is just dumb, it works and the new way is only to satisfy the solo'ists and casuals to the point where they are fighting teeth and nail to keep it that way. how can they not love not having to depend on people in an online game. and play well with others. there is a place for all types of play styles but we all deserve a mmo that we can enjoy. and we all should have some stuff in mmo's that match our game style. they butchered this mmo from the looks of it. sorry but that is a fact to many. and we will have to just wait and see ...but the majority know it deep in there heads. you people are going to be playing by yourselves within 6months.

Another person who supports grind parties seems to totally forget we will have dungeon finder for group leveling needs.

[Lirion]

I take questing over grind partys. Remember when that whm had to go and there was no replacement? Yeah party broke and you were back to shouting in town really annoyed because you were just a few thousand exp from leveling.

As long as they have all the options for every playstyle I'm happy, just don't force this party grinding monster on the ones that rather level in other ways.

[kazaran]

Can't really say much due to the NDA still being in place, but there are more options. Including 4 options mentioned.

[wedgie]

i just hope we don't need a full party just to quest.

[Geiger]

I'm pretty sure partying will still be useful. Seeing as ARR will have quicker battles, maybe it will even be faster than leves or quests?
But levelling ONLY using quests... Sure, might work a few times. I'd give it 3 jobs, at least -- One from each starting city. That is, getting a job from 1 to 50 only using the quests in one city/region. I'm fairly sure they won't have enough quests for each player to level all 8 launch battle jobs to 50 (let alone jobs added later)... It's just too many quests. So yeah, after a few L50s we'll probably go back to the good ol' leves and grinds.

[Xatsh]

Another person who supports grind parties seems to totally forget we will have dungeon finder for group leveling needs.

You fail to realize that a decent portion of the population does not like dungeon grinding as the only option. It is a nice feature and the game should have it but it alone is not enough. It removes you from the game world. It is like playing Diablo town and warp to dungeon.

[KittenStomper]

It is like playing Diablo town and warp to dungeon.

you mean like D3? I bought that game, played for like an hour, hated it, never played it again.. All the stupid achievements every 10 seconds.. the porting straight to boss battle... the whole thing was terrible... a horrible view into the MMORPG gaming community of today. Instant gratification for everything.... If this game turns out like that.. I'll probably just stick to ffxi. The new expansion looks pretty sweet