Levelling in ARR

[Destinova]

Instead of making one preferred way they should balance so that all aspects of leveling is viable. From dungeons, to parties, and quests.

[Elexia]

Instead of making one preferred way they should balance so that all aspects of leveling is viable. From dungeons, to parties, and quests.

"You won't be able to progress by grinding on monsters." They already killed that balance aspect.

I basically only skimmed through the OP here...so apologizes if I'm repeating what's already been said. But quests will get ONE class to Level 50 I believe.

No, the main storyline will be enough XP to do this, there will be hundreds of copy pasted quests over and over to partake in that's more than enough to level up your classes. They're going with Quest Chaining which in every MMO that has done it you'll be spamming the same quests ad infinitum.

[Hulan]

In an ideal world, two things would fall into place: the LFP flag system (whatever it is) works as intended and is used by the general populus, and party based exp (dungeons or standard grinding) is worth just slightly more than quests (I'd personally balance it around 1.2:1 dungeon:solo). The convenience factor of questing will make it the prefered method of gaining levels solo while looking for a party, while dungeons and/or grinding (depending on your preferences) would trump solo exp when availible.

Reguardless of how fun or not fun you may find party grinding (dungeons or otherwise). It's an important step that has been lacking in a lot of MMOs. Very little of classical "end-game" is solo oriented. As such, if the entire leveling process is done solo, your training and initiation has to overlap what would otherwise be when you should be doing "end-game". By giving players incentive to party earlier, the game can introduce party mechanics at a more gradual pace.

As to the concern at hand, I believe it was stated that there would be serveral dungeons specifically for the purpose of leveling (and gaining some basic low-level gear presumably). If that is indeed the case, it seems extremely unlikely to me that they have dropped the concept of party exp entirely for quests.

[IronSoup]

The main storyline should (by Yoshii) take a single class from 1 to 50. That doesn't include the various side-quests, guild-quests and grand-company-quests. Questing will be an excellent way to level in ARR compared to FFXIV1.23 where PL (low levels), grinding parties (40+ parties that could include lvl.50s) and leve quests were the best ways. Also, you all seem to forget the lvl capped F.A.T.E events (including chocobo runs with an unlimited number of players now). I believe this will also be a good way to grind and gather whatever rewards it will give.

Questing will definitely be a good alternative to level in ARR (main story = 1 lvl.50 job is damn good) but there will be a lot of other ways... leves, FATE events, grinding, PL-ing, grinding, dungeons... Which one will be faster? Nobody knows but there will be plenty of different things to do to level which gives you more options to choose from than you had in FFXIV1.23.

More alternative ways to level...THAT is the main thing to remember here.

[strallaalaa]

i'ma not tip toe about this kindly and just say straight up that without the grinding parties this game and any mmo, especially a final fantasy mmo will be crap. i hate quest grinding, i hate solo grinding. i hate choices for both less they are scaled very differently. aka forced party with the option to do the quests while waiting is cool. other wise it becomes something that you do only by choice. like yeah i'ma try and waist hours to get people to do this for fun. no thanks.

they for sure should be options, not trying to kill that idea. but when they go from 16man grinds to 8man grinds to then wtf only quests and dungeons. that is a huge game killer. 360 of what the mmo was. and i don't' think anyone that signed the ok on changing the game was expecting that.

as for the F.A.T.E. system at the most that will be like gw2 events but in no way does this count. if your not grouping up with a party for long periods it's not partying. that is solo'ing with others. and dungeons might be the closest thing, but i did not like this for leveling at all in other mmo's too. if they could create a auto grouping system they could of made it for regular grinding groups too and it would of lessened the complaining about, i only have 30mins to play. i'd be very happy though if grinding parties still existed, then really we could use that auto grouping and just leave and go exp maybe, that is if the auto grouping system is good enough.

also would like to touch on spirit binding? i mean will we have this still? that was the funnest way to level, hopefully they remove all ways to power level this time around and still let us party grind and spirit bind. but if it really is questing and dungeons only does that mean everyone is wearing SB gears in questing and dungeons? the dungeon option would start pissing people off that are trying to speed run them and people are in sb gears. or maybe sb'ing is just that more easier now>< they did say that whole system has been made easier but i hope the materia and sb isn't that easy.

obviously we don't know a lot of this yet and we will need to wait and see, but i can tell you i'm not lying when i say this game can burn in hell if it thinks i'ma solo threw the main parts of the game. i expected party mode main story, party mode questing, party mode everything ...so whatever i'll leave this game just like the other mmo's i quit in a few months. oh well. but seriously i'd give every cent i have to see every company go under that has been following this formula.

[wedgie]

i just hope we don't need a full party just to quest.

[Rex]

I basically only skimmed through the OP here...so apologizes if I'm repeating what's already been said. But quests will get ONE class to Level 50 I believe.


EDIT: Don't forget...Levequests still exist.

[VitoScaletta]

Man I hope it isn't repetitive like TERA, I'm playing that right now while its F2P waiting on ARR beta and thats ALL it is. Go kill x monster y times, move area, rinse repeat. If you don't want to do that que up in some lonely part of the world and wait 2 hours for an instanced dungeon! Trying hard to judge ARR, but Alpha just looks like its heading there..

[strallaalaa]

Man I hope it isn't repetitive like TERA, I'm playing that right now while its F2P waiting on ARR beta and thats ALL it is. Go kill x monster y times, move area, rinse repeat. If you don't want to do that que up in some lonely part of the world and wait 2 hours for an instanced dungeon! Trying hard to judge ARR, but Alpha just looks like its heading there..

i hated tera, it was the only mmo i quit before even getting to max level first. and your right this game basicly is feeling like that, you can quest threw, jump in dungeons for exp while gearing up and move on over and over till max. it will not be something that will keep players living in this mmo for years. i see us going f2p just as quick as other mmo's less we are missing something big. they really screwed this mmo up for the worse and all the casual or solo lovers can talk all they want but they know it too, the game won't last ...it's more about not caring and knowing that every mmo is the same and they will keep playing and tossing mmo's like they were regular games. I WANT A DANG MMO I CAN PLAY FOR 5YEARS OR LONGER ......and still love it.

[Zezlar]

A levequest is essentially a side quest. Kill XX at XX location except no dialogue.