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    It will no fail because it's a good game with no competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It will no fail because it's a good game with no competition.
    No competi-...are we in the same reality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    No competi-...are we in the same reality?
    Not to mention XIV has already failed once so there's already that image they have to shake off. Throw in the fact people are generally content with their current outgoings excluding SWTOR and TERA and there's plenty of competition. She was talking more for herself personally.
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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    No competi-...are we in the same reality?
    looool

    Well I can't find anything I like.
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    Yay for optimism, I completely agree FFXIV will not fail, as long as Yoshi-P keeps listening to us (whilst using his common sense) we have nothing to worry about.


    GOGOGO Yoshi-P we believe in you
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    +1 to OP keep the good karma going.
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    I have yet to see a MMO with a good F2P model. On the other hand, games like Dota2, LoL and PS2 prove that the F2P can work even better than box sells (Dota2 is still beta and people are spending money on it already). Maybe it's something with the genre, but for MMOs, I'd rather have a sub based model and pay a fix amount of money to access everything.
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    4-5 mill player base, so dont worry about f2p at all o=!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molic View Post
    4-5 mill player base, so dont worry about f2p at all o=!
    Maybe I'm missing something here, but who are you talking about having 4-5mm playbase? Here is another one of Ryahl's editorials on the Obituary for the subscription MMO. The fact is, the playerbase is just not there for a traditional western style subscription MMO. At least to sustain it long term. Pretty much you would have to find a WoW killer, and how many games have attempted and failed at that over the years?

    If you take out WoW from the mix, you can see that the entire western subscription market was under 4million players (when the piece was written the data available was upto Dec 2011).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aela View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something here, but who are you talking about having 4-5mm playbase? Here is another one of Ryahl's editorials on the Obituary for the subscription MMO. The fact is, the playerbase is just not there for a traditional western style subscription MMO. At least to sustain it long term. Pretty much you would have to find a WoW killer, and how many games have attempted and failed at that over the years?

    If you take out WoW from the mix, you can see that the entire western subscription market was under 4million players (when the piece was written the data available was upto Dec 2011).
    I see your facts and raise you blind faith! also contrary to popular belief the western market isnt the only market. also this is an optimistic thread i have no need for your pessimistic graphs and chart and data stuff, and i was getting tired of seeing the f2p arguments continuing on and on and on and on and on.... so i made a shallow attempt to hopefully dissolve it in some way or fashion.
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