ARR class progression

[Nix]

thats your opinion. Its like i say all the time. WHY CANT SE FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM? WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER? Seriously Why not have 2 ways to lvl up so everyone is happy dont wanna spam quest over and over, or ppl who dont wanna grind. Nope Fuck the people who wanna grind party we are gonna lower the xp to force them to do lame as quest. Just like SE made it that mages cant move instead of making them able to at least WALK at walking speed a melee can catch up. NOPE FUCK EM for Pvp no happy medium.

While old fashioned grinding might not be up to snuff, they will have dungeon grinding which is said to give quite a bit of xp. So think of it as like loot with lots of xp on the side!

Edit: kinda hoping that dungeon grinding will be as efficient xp-wise as 1.0's party grinding, but with less fighting over lucrative camps since you'll all be in an instance. Though I think if grinding mobs doesn't turn out to be good enough I can see that getting adjusted in the future.

[Xatsh]

While old fashioned grinding might not be up to snuff, they will have dungeon grinding which is said to give quite a bit of xp. So think of it as like loot with lots of xp on the side!

Running the same dungeon over and over and over again gets horribly boring. Also unless they remove the cooldowns for re-entree dungeon leveling will not even be the most effective.

[Nix]

Running the same dungeon over and over and over again gets horribly boring. Also unless they remove the cooldowns for re-entree dungeon leveling will not even be the most effective.

For sure ; ;, though I'm hoping they will add in many more dungeons to make that side of grinding quite fun/varied instead of "Ok, let's re-run tam-tara for the 50th time today /cry"

[Ramesses]

Running the same dungeon over and over and over again gets horribly boring. Also unless they remove the cooldowns for re-entree dungeon leveling will not even be the most effective.

I thought Yoshi just explained that the dungeons are now at least three times their current size? With some people on the forums mentioning rumours that some dungeons may even have a dynamic ability to randomly change layouts? That's not enough?

[ShinigamiKayla]

Running the same dungeon over and over and over again gets horribly boring. Also unless they remove the cooldowns for re-entree dungeon leveling will not even be the most effective.

killing the same mob over and over in an exp grind group is horribly boring... I'd rather at least be getting gear with my dungeon kills ...

[Xatsh]

killing the same mob over and over in an exp grind group is horribly boring... I'd rather at least be getting gear with my dungeon kills ...

I would rather have the option for both

[KoujiGeki]

killing the same mob over and over in an exp grind group is horribly boring... I'd rather at least be getting gear with my dungeon kills ...

Its boring for you yes , but not for everyone there should be anm option for ppl who dont wanna spam dungeons or quests.

[Warlock]

Its boring for you yes , but not for everyone there should be anm option for ppl who dont wanna spam dungeons or quests.

Could you at least try to explain what is so exciting about half afking killing tons of the same mob for hours? VS. doing quests that will give you gear,gil and a piece of lore and wont root you at one spot but it will make you travel around and explore...it is laughable the amount of people that didn't know all the lore behind 1.0 from the intro to end of an era. whining and bitching the extended "new beginning" video makes no sense...when actually the real problem was that they didn't get the necessary quests done..

[KoujiGeki]

Could you at least try to explain what is so exciting about half afking killing tons of the same mob for hours? VS. doing quests that will give you gear,gil and a piece of lore and wont root you at one spot but it will make you travel around and explore...it is laughable the amount of people that didn't know all the lore behind 1.0 from the intro to end of an era. whining and bitching the extended "new beginning" video makes no sense...when actually the real problem was that they didn't get the necessary quests done..

Its a preference, i happen to enjoy killing mobs in parties. Especially if its a funny party. Its what i expect from FF games. My personal playstyle was to stay back and grind lvl. Like in FF4 Im usually 15-20 lvls above the part of the story that im usually suppose to be. Grinds dont bother me. I have no problem with quest based lvling as long as its fun the whole time, except if it Escorting or just running around the world a thousand times. Like think if quest in 11 made you run from Bastok al the way to lets say Ro Moave, then all the way back Bastok for a 3 second cutscene or not even a cutscene it gives a friggin item and then have to run all the way back to ro moave no warping just running. That is stupid and boring to do running al that running for cutscene of just talking.

Im just frustrated that SE isnt even trying to find happy mediums.

[Cynthis]

Im just frustrated that SE isnt even trying to find happy mediums.

I really hope they do since I agree with you that parties are sometimes a lot of fun. Some of my fondest memories from 1.0 are from killing cactuars near Horizon to level and inviting people that came by. I got to know a lot of my in game friends that way and in one case the party we formed there continued over a week all the way to getting to 50 in Natalan as we all got to know each other along the way.

Having said that I also pride myself on doing all the quests so for me it is really important that there is a combination of both.