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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    I disagree... there are 3 starting cities, I vote that you can get 3clases to 50 with quests! :P
    Depends, completest like to run around and do every quest you can. Say you get to 20 in Uldah and there is no more quest. You head over to LL and do all the level 1-20 quest and this gets you to 23.... where if you saved them for a new class they would of got you to 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    Depends, completest like to run around and do every quest you can. Say you get to 20 in Uldah and there is no more quest. You head over to LL and do all the level 1-20 quest and this gets you to 23.... where if you saved them for a new class they would of got you to 20.
    Eh with the breaking up of the zones, and adding of new ones, I doubt they would make us run across the world to get the next "batch" of quests.
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    Borrowing my experience from EVE-Online, they had a system of repeatable quests where for each different "class", there is a set of quests for a given range of levels, and one can just keep doing those to level.

    I do not see ARR needing anything fancy, maybe 5-10 quests per 5 levels, per class, should be plenty to make it work. This should keep those that rather solo busy (personally I do not see why in a MMO), and the party players will always have their parties to find.

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    Indira Cliodhna
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    only thing i have left to finsh is the rest of the crafters & gathering. hope its better then 1.0
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    this might be the reason i end up quitting, i hate quest leveling. especially if this is a solo thing. it better be better to do in a party, if not i will not level another class and i will not level raise caps. i don't play mmo's to solo, especially the biggest parts of the game. it's just straight bull shit to go from 8man exp grinds(actualy 16man party grinds tanaka launch) to solo quests, it's a different game all together.(i quit every mmo for the past 10years since ffxi that had quest grinds and solo grinds they suck) and having option to party doesn't mean people will party, aka tera, it was a pain to get even one or 2 people to run threw a full zone of quests, most solo'd and even skiped the hard party ones scattered around the game) if this was a car sale and they sent me a buick instead of the porche i payed for there would be lawsuits ...so nice that the gaming and mmo industry doesn't get held by the same standards of products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    this might be the reason i end up quitting, i hate quest leveling. especially if this is a solo thing. it better be better to do in a party, if not i will not level another class and i will not level raise caps. i don't play mmo's to solo, especially the biggest parts of the game. it's just straight bull shit to go from 8man exp grinds(actualy 16man party grinds tanaka launch) to solo quests, it's a different game all together.(i quit every mmo for the past 10years since ffxi that had quest grinds and solo grinds they suck) and having option to party doesn't mean people will party, aka tera, it was a pain to get even one or 2 people to run threw a full zone of quests, most solo'd and even skiped the hard party ones scattered around the game) if this was a car sale and they sent me a buick instead of the porche i payed for there would be lawsuits ...so nice that the gaming and mmo industry doesn't get held by the same standards of products.
    I'm sure there's gonna be plenty of party based quests. It's also not like you and friends all can't do the same quests together or go run dungeons. XP parties are a thing of the passed and should cease to exist any longer in the MMO world. Find a guild with people of the same goal sets or preferences as you. It's also more than likely that half the people playing wanted to get to max level to do endgame which does require a party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic View Post
    I'm sure there's gonna be plenty of party based quests. It's also not like you and friends all can't do the same quests together or go run dungeons. XP parties are a thing of the passed and should cease to exist any longer in the MMO world. Find a guild with people of the same goal sets or preferences as you. It's also more than likely that half the people playing wanted to get to max level to do endgame which does require a party.
    grouping to level isn't a thing of the past, fact if ffxiv didn't get first made with a broken engine it's probably what we would have right now. how is party leveling a thing of the past, it's just that every mmo is copying the same failing formula and ffxiv at least had the 8man party grinding at the beginning then took it away. they will soon see the same fate as the other mmo's for it. i'll say this with confidence, there will never be a successful mmo till they get back to party play everything. all you solo rejects in mmo's should get a new hobby like knitting. ..thing of the past, mmo's will soon be a thing of the past cause we can solo shit without paying 14bucks a month elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    all you solo rejects in mmo's should get a new hobby like knitting.
    I already knit... in my solo downtime >

    I love soloing, but I also love grouping. If I only have like 1hr to play I don't want to waste 45min seeking a party when I could spend the whole 60mins knocking out quests or leves.

    The beautiful thing about ARR is that it's not just catering to soloers, there's many different ways to get xp.

    I loved FFXI's party focus but it was awful when I only had like 1hour here and there to kill and I wanted to make progress on my character with a very limited timeframe. It would be extremely rude to join a party after 30mins of seeking then suddenly have to go 30mins later.
    That to me is a thing of the past; being forced to only make progression when you have 3+ hours to kill should be a thing of the past no matter how you slice it; but ARR will cater to all - you can party, you can solo, you can dungeon grind with friends or solo leves etc. With this flexibility I forsee great things. If you abhor soloing you'll always have the chance to group up with friends, there will be people that detest soloing just as much as you, so you won't be alone.

    So let's not trash a side of the game you wouldn't enjoy; you have the option to not solo (novel idea, isn't it?)
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    I say wait till beta (at least from Phase 3)... that's all I can say at the moment for this one.

    Guys in red armor sneaking up behind me... gotta go...
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    Party grinds are still a viable and faster source of exp, they just added more stuff for the solo people to jump into. Also helps break up the monotony of just doing one thing all day everyday.
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