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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by GatoGrotto View Post
    It's interesting to see how leveling multiple classes is going to work in 2.0 seeing as how the game is transitioning from a mob-grind based progression system to a quest-based system. For example, you go through an entire series of quests to level one job from 1-50, then switch to another class, are all quests that have already been completed from your first play through gone for good or do you think they'll be repeatable?
    They are not repeatable. Simple solution, don't do all quests with only one class ^^
    SE bring new sidequests with every big update. And there are still other contents which give exp.
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    There will not be enough quest to take all your classes to 50.

    You can still do leves..
    You can still kill mobs..
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    When your out of quests or tired of leve's I'm sure dungeons will be the most popular grinding method. Especially when you consider having a cross-server LFG making running them back to back easy plus gear drops.
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    Quest Setup:
    "Go pick 5 vegetables for me."
    "Go slay 5 Marmots for me."
    "Go examine 3 points for me..oh but watch out! you'll pop a marmot!"

    Repeat hundreds of times between all 3 cities and that's how you'll level every class. If you've played one quest based MMO you've played em all, so don't worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Quest Setup:
    "Go pick 5 vegetables for me."
    "Go slay 5 Marmots for me."
    "Go examine 3 points for me..oh but watch out! you'll pop a marmot!"

    Repeat hundreds of times between all 3 cities and that's how you'll level every class. If you've played one quest based MMO you've played em all, so don't worry about it.
    For those that enjoy story, and not just the quickest path to the top level... the reason why you go kill those marmots, or examine those points, is always different. Thats what quest-ers enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    For those that enjoy story, and not just the quickest path to the top level... the reason why you go kill those marmots, or examine those points, is always different. Thats what quest-ers enjoy.
    Well considering even SE blew through the dialog when showing the system off, it must not be that good, since even though there's a reason, did you enjoy reading every Guildleve you used? Since they have those said reasons too but I rarely heard of anyone taking the time to read nor talk about why we're doing it.

    That's why I dislike quest based MMOs, the stories tend to be poorly done because I'm a person that enjoys story which is why I enjoyed XI's content setup, because all were rooted into the overall mythos of Vanadiel even if you ended up grinding certain events over and over back in the day, the locale itself was story driven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well considering even SE blew through the dialog when showing the system off, it must not be that good, since even though there's a reason, did you enjoy reading every Guildleve you used? Since they have those said reasons too but I rarely heard of anyone taking the time to read nor talk about why we're doing it.

    That's why I dislike quest based MMOs, the stories tend to be poorly done because I'm a person that enjoys story which is why I enjoyed XI's content setup, because all were rooted into the overall mythos of Vanadiel even if you ended up grinding certain events over and over back in the day, the locale itself was story driven.
    leves are not the same as quests...... leves were more like "marks". The quests that were available in 1.0, i thought were very well done. I don't think I would have leveled weaver as fast as I did if it weren't for the quests because I wanted to see how the story ended... With that in mind, I think ARR has a good chance of making their quests immersive enough to not mind the typical "gather me 3 of those and 5 of these." in order to find out what happens next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well considering even SE blew through the dialog when showing the system off, it must not be that good, since even though there's a reason, did you enjoy reading every Guildleve you used? Since they have those said reasons too but I rarely heard of anyone taking the time to read nor talk about why we're doing it.
    People will skip dialogue regardless of how good it is. I still remember the interesting explanations and dialogue WoW's quests to unlock druid forms had (brief history, explanations of why druids are able to take on the animal forms, etc), and people STILL decided to skip the dialogue. It's less about the quality of the text and more about how patient your average person is.

    The person that cares about the lore and is curious will read the quest. The guy that just wants to rush through the content as fast as possible will click on the accept quest button and move on. You're pointing the finger at the wrong thing, as always.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Quest Setup:
    "Go pick 5 vegetables for me."
    "Go slay 5 Marmots for me."
    "Go examine 3 points for me..oh but watch out! you'll pop a marmot!"

    Repeat hundreds of times between all 3 cities and that's how you'll level every class. If you've played one quest based MMO you've played em all, so don't worry about it.
    Only that will get you one maybe two classes to 50.

    You will have to do leves and grind the rest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    Only that will get you one maybe two classes to 50.

    You will have to do leves and grind the rest
    I disagree... there are 3 starting cities, I vote that you can get 3 classes to 50 with quests! :P
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    Last edited by Lady; 01-12-2013 at 03:02 AM. Reason: spelling is an art form.

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