I've yet to see a player base in any of the other games I've played - most are F2P now - as mature as Karnak + Excalibur (especially Karnak, but Excalibur was good too). Maybe it has nothing to do with the type of people F2P attracts and its just that FF peeps are a special kind of cool :P Maybe not though... I would hate to see the fine community of Excalibur be destroyed by the riffraff that would possibly come through the F2P floodgates ><