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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    Just read that Tera is going free to play in the US and EU, and people are commenting that they give ARR from 4 to 8 months after release to follow the same route as all the other MMO's the last years...

    I fear for the mindset of the population, not about the quality of the game, that may force it's demise...
    You shouldn't fear it. In the last years many MMOs have been forced to change their market plan to avoid bankrupt. There 2 main reasons to change from P2P to F2P:

    1) An old game that is losing players, and want to keep them up as long as possible.
    2) A failed game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atamos View Post
    When FFXI will be Free to Play then you'll have a good reason to worry.
    This is the most valuable proof about what I'm saying. I don't want to talk about P2P vs F2P, but if players pay a monthly fee and the game is full of people, there won't any reasons to change and go F2P.
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    square enix has deep pockets. 11 still going and not F2P and what that like over 10years.
    The cost to do what they did and in Yoshi P words: rebuild, reboot, rebirth, and relaunch was probably extraordinary
    so i find it hard to fathom that FFXIV would ever be F2P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    people are commenting that they give ARR from 4 to 8 months after release to follow the same route as all the other MMO's the last years...
    When you say "people" do you mean informed game industry employees who have played the release version of ARR or do you mean a couple of asshats that posted their "opinion" on the interweb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennika View Post
    When you say "people" do you mean informed game industry employees who have played the release version of ARR or do you mean a couple of asshats that posted their "opinion" on the interweb?
    Well, probably asshats, but still, most of these predictions were true related to other games, I know the quality of ARR is on a whole other level, but anyway, the mindset of the buyer can damage this title badly, if every mmo goes f2p in a few months after release, why should this one be different? why buy it if it's going to be free in the near future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennika View Post
    When you say "people" do you mean informed game industry employees who have played the release version of ARR or do you mean a couple of asshats that posted their "opinion" on the interweb?
    From first hand experience what i can say is, i do not see ARR f2p any time in the near future (4-6 years)...
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    This game is going to be fine overall. Sure there will be some that wont like everything about it but I think overall the game will have enough returning and new players to be "successful" and that success is not measured only by having more subs than wow.

    Also I think ppl should play games for themselves and not rely on other ppls opinions to play or not play. Try it out if you like it fantastic if you dont well hope you find a game you do like.

    I admit I have been playing Tera just to tide me over from Alpha to beta and I must say there are a few things I like mind you im only 41 Berserker but Im having fun killing stuff solo doing quests and leaving bams alone until im about 10 lvls above them then going back to own them. The ppl playing it love it and some sound curious about ARR. However like most games you probably wont like everything about it still trying to get used to Global chat omg talk about alot of chat noise lol.

    My heart is here with FFXIV ARR but it doesnt hurt to check other games out for yourself and just agree to disagree you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamos View Post
    When FFXI will be Free to Play then you'll have a good reason to worry.
    I get the sense that your implying FFXI would go F2P before FFXIV ever would.. I would say although likely, thats not exactly true. FFXIV could be a complete piece of garbage that SE basically abandons (as well as its player base) and then puts all their resources back into FFXI... A game that is soon to get another expansion and is still gaining brand new subs (and old returning subs) every day.

    However, I also think that no FF mmo, unless built this way from the get go (But why??)... would EVER be reduced to F2P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leomike35 View Post
    Also I think ppl should play games for themselves and not rely on other ppls opinions to play or not play.
    Great advice, but good luck convincing this crowd of that.
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    Kinda glad TERA is going free to play. I liked it but this is the only MMO I want to dedicate myself to. I quit paying for tera a while ago but it would be nice to pick it up during maintenance
    I Would really like to see XI go free to play so more people would play it again. It's actually still pretty emmersive and a bit more casual friendly, plus it's been out so long.. I admit every few months I re subscribe for a little while but dont enjoy it enough for the hefty price tag ( As I have a lot of mules who hold things and rare/ex is transferable on your alts and each alt costs money)

    I don't however want to see ARR go free to play. I dislike the kinds of players f2p games usually bring out. I feel TERA already has a large amount of these players so I don't foresee it changing the game for the worse. XIV has already had too many trolls and half-@$$ed player(not meaning you casuals) that have tried to bring this game down and I would be glad to pay to have the majority of those players not around as much.
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    I don't think you have anything to fear. Here is what Yoshi said about free to play for ARR.

    The last thing is that our aim is to make an MMO and a lot of companies do their development for MMOs by getting money from investors. Then the investors want their money back, so if the game doesn’t make enough money or doesn’t have enough users, then what do we do? We’d have to pay our investors back, and free-to-play is an option to get that money back to investors quickly. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is a product that is independent to Square-Enix. All of the money’s coming from us, so we had more time to put it into what we wanted to do. We’re not in a rush to pay anyone back.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/squa...t-free-to-play
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