Scared about ARR

[xXHalloweenTrixXx]

Tera wasn't bad just story was horrible and pvp was borked. And the developers never seemed to want to fix those stupidly high numbers. So pvp was a joke of one hit kills. Best it had was PvE combat. Somehow I assumed it would go f2p though and I played it during beta stages. People demanded from day 1 for most of these changes.

[Kirito]

SE has a brand image uphold. I seriously doubt FFXIV will ever go F2P because going F2P indicates failure, which is very bad for the final fantasy brand. It's the reason why FFXIV was rebuilt to restore to try to restore that image of quality of the brand.

Exactly. I think SE would rather just scrap the project rather than go F2P. The lost of reputation if ff14 ARR failed (although it likely won't) and become F2P would be much greater than an any money they can retrieve from it as F2P. It would also likely be the end of any new final fantasy mmo... But that, of course, is if it fails and by the looks of it, it won't...

[strallaalaa]

i think that if it is failing they will finally say fuck it ffxi-2 time lol. least that is what i'm hoping. i don't think they want to go f2p for it. so if the game is failing then it's safe to say time to make the game for the people they know will stay for 4years at a time. if abysea didn't destroy ffxi i would of went back already. but sadly i refuse to play it in it's state. i personally don't think this game will succeed, but i also don't think it will fail totally. flip of a coin i guess, theres still a lot of ffxiv that makes me think it will do great, but then lots of it that i am thinking crap we in trouble. put it all together and i'm just not sure yet. guess we will see when game is at launch. i will know within the first month if not sooner if i want to play it for years or /quit.

[Wolfie]

By the by, if SE/Yoshi decides that this game is never going to drop the P2P model, but is not profitable or doing well, it will be scaled back in some fashion, like slower updates or smaller updates, or server mergers.

Again, this all can be avoided with having a lot of out-of-game and service offerings, and aggressive ad campaigns. The latter probably being the most effective.

[indira]

It won't happen.

i double that.

[Lady]

Technically, 1.0 was F2P for over a year...

[Molly_Millions]

Technically, 1.0 was F2P for over a year...

Only while they fixed things in order to ditch that model. If that wasn't proof enough that they don't want that business model, I don't know what is. It won't happen.

I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I don't want to play a a game where folks can simply pay to have the best gear, when that happens, I'm out.

[Twiddle]

Technically, 1.0 was F2P for over a year...

True, and then it whet p2p, and will stay p2p... the revers of what the other games are doing... I think this is a good way to go.. get people hooked on then go p2p... people who care will stay and pay.

[Pseudopsia]

Technically, 1.0 was F2P for over a year...

It was a temporarily unsustainable B2P to keep the player base since FFXIV 1.0 was initially very bad. True F2P has in-game ways to generate revenue, FFXIV doesn't have this and is not build for it.

[Dannythm]

Technically, 1.0 was F2P for over a year...

It didn't had subscriptions, but all the game content was there without limitations and they implemented no cash shop, that is not the definition of "F2P" as understood today.