Scared about ARR

[Riv]

I'm a huge FF fan but i wouldn't play some F2P garbage.

[Zehira]

PSO2 looks good since it's F2P but from what I see, it's probably an 'okay' type of MMO that everyone could play at least one or two weeks before everyone get bored.

[Scotchio]

I believe FFXI has been SE's biggest money maker in the whole Final Fantasy series. What with the monthly subscriptions.

They are trying to recreate that with FFXIV for the next generation to get a reliable monthly income with FFXIV subs.

I personally hope FFXIV stays pay-to-play so I can enjoy everything the game has to offer on just a basic monthly sub, without having to pay extra to access this and that.

If the game is good enough, and I believe it will be, loyal players will be happy to pay the subs to stay in the FFXIV world.

And in return I believe we will be repaid in frequent quality updates and content to keep us happy for many a year.

[Zehira]

I believe FFXI has been SE's biggest money maker in the whole Final Fantasy series. What with the monthly subscriptions.

They are trying to recreate that with FFXIV for the next generation to get a reliable monthly income with FFXIV subs.

I personally hope FFXIV stays pay-to-play so I can enjoy everything the game has to offer on just a basic monthly sub, without having to pay extra to access this and that.

If the game is good enough, and I believe it will be, loyal players will be happy to pay the subs to stay in the FFXIV world.

And in return I believe we will be repaid in frequent quality updates and content to keep us happy for many a year.

And I believe how XI is still P2P because it's the international game where you still could play with foreigners while you are living in the states. Like other MMOs you are stuck with NA-only servers (correct me if I am wrong) and when most of them quit while you still like the game but can't find anyone to play with, you would say fuck this and you quit too. That's how companies decided to make it F2P.

To me if XIV stays international then it would stay P2P forever though.

[Corleone]

I've yet to see a player base in any of the other games I've played - most are F2P now - as mature as Karnak + Excalibur (especially Karnak, but Excalibur was good too). Maybe it has nothing to do with the type of people F2P attracts and its just that FF peeps are a special kind of cool :P Maybe not though... I would hate to see the fine community of Excalibur be destroyed by the riffraff that would possibly come through the F2P floodgates ><

[Aliwebb]

LOLF2P that is all

[Zehira]

LOLF2P that is all

I am happy to know that there many people who don't mind about P2P. :P

[Issachar]

LOLF2P that is all

I don't mind paying, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think PSO2's system was superior in every way to the traditional $/time system.

[Mikita]

I don't mind paying, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think PSO2's system was superior in every way to the traditional $/time system.

Are you playing PSO2? How is their system superior?

The problem I see with a F2P system is that every content and development decision gets weighed against the question of "Will it negatively impact the cash shop?" rather than simply "Is this going to make a better game that people want to continue playing?" And this really limits many aspects of what can be put into the game.

PSO2 does have a well thought out system, and thankfully it's not pay-to-win. Superior, though, I'm not sure.
Because of their take on the F2P system, the game will probably never have much by way of community interaction, player created items, or a player driven economy (some of the core benefits of being an MMORPG) because it will be bad for business.

I'm playing PSO2 until ARR launches. I've paid some money. I've had some fun... but the game itself is not much more than a zergfest through doing the same short quests over and over. I don't know if it is capable of being anything more than that since they have a cash shop to protect.

[Issachar]

Are you playing PSO2? How is their system superior?

Free to play, pay for only the services you want (right to sell on auction house, trading, extra Mags, vanity items, etc). Perfectly playable. Can still buy from the AH and NPC drops for in-game currency without spending a single cent. Can get to cap the same as anyone else, kill the big things like anyone else, get rare drops, etc.