Scared about ARR

[Ryokyu]

the game so far how they show in the alpha is boring and not fun to keep playing for hrs. if by the end of the BETA things dont change this game gonna be exactly like the others mmo games out there and it will be a lose for SE. im tired of the same crap with the quest grinding, and for more they take ur hands to show you what to do.... i want SE to create a game that is challenge and fun but how is going is boring and really easy i mean sooo easy that i didnt even die once because the mobs were so damn easy and is alpha i know thats why im waiting for the BETA to come and see how harder it gets after lv20 but the first 20 lv the game is pretty USELESS AND BORING!

[SidRheingold]

the game so far how they show in the alpha is boring and not fun to keep playing for hrs. if by the end of the BETA things dont change this game gonna be exactly like the others mmo games out there and it will be a lose for SE. im tired of the same crap with the quest grinding, and for more they take ur hands to show you what to do.... i want SE to create a game that is challenge and fun but how is going is boring and really easy i mean sooo easy that i didnt even die once because the mobs were so damn easy and is alpha i know thats why im waiting for the BETA to come and see how harder it gets after lv20 but the first 20 lv the game is pretty USELESS AND BORING!

And yet you sound like this was your first alpha version participation.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that I totally disagree with your opinion.
I don't explain in detail, as you didn't either.

[Ryokyu]

And yet you sound like this was your first alpha version participation.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that I totally disagree with your opinion.
I don't explain in detail, as you didn't either.

u disagree with what? im just saying the game is boring how it is there no explanation there i say it, the lving up to lv20 is was boring as fuck no challenge and i know is just lv20 but what if the game continue been like that until lv50? boring as fuck sorry but u dont have nothing good to say only u said i disagree with nothing to back you up

[trep]

u disagree with what? im just saying the game is boring how it is there no explanation there i say it, the lving up to lv20 is was boring as fuck no challenge and i know is just lv20 but what if the game continue been like that until lv50? boring as fuck sorry but u dont have nothing good to say only u said i disagree with nothing to back you up

The goal of the alpha wasn't to be challenging or hard, it was for stress testing and bug reporting.

Also, it was possible for you to create your own challenge and get a party to go kill some adamantoise or try a levequest much harder than you could take. Basically, it's like playing a demo for 80h and go on saying the game is too easy and short.

There's a difference between hard and challenging. In my experience running heroic 25 mans in WoW, the line between beating a boss and whiping was very thin. I give that to blizzard, they did a very good job on balancing these instances and bosses and i'm quite interested in seeing what they come with in FFXiV.

[Ryokyu]

The goal of the alpha wasn't to be challenging or hard, it was for stress testing and bug reporting.

Also, it was possible for you to create your own challenge and get a party to go kill some adamantoise or try a levequest much harder than you could take. Basically, it's like playing a demo for 80h and go on saying the game is too easy and short.

There's a difference between hard and challenging. In my experience running heroic 25 mans in WoW, the line between beating a boss and whiping was very thin. I give that to blizzard, they did a very good job on balancing these instances and bosses and i'm quite interested in seeing what they come with in FFXiV.

i understand what u saying god people dont read right! im SAYING!!!! I KNOW IS ALPHA AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANING FOR THAT, BUT IM SAYING IF!!! THE GAME STAY LIKE THAT EVEN IN THE BETA IS GONNA BE BORING AS HELL THATS WHY IM WAITING ON THE DAMN BETA TO SEE HOW WELL THE GAME IS!!!! GOD.................. sorry for cap when i start writing i forget to take it out lol

[Alerith]

u disagree with what? im just saying the game is boring how it is there no explanation there i say it, the lving up to lv20 is was boring as fuck no challenge and i know is just lv20 but what if the game continue been like that until lv50? boring as fuck sorry but u dont have nothing good to say only u said i disagree with nothing to back you up

He is stating his opinion, which is exactly what you are doing. Neither of you is right, neither of you is wrong. You think the game is boring, he disagrees.

To say he has nothing good to say just because he disagrees with you only shows your own stupidity.

[VitoScaletta]

What people dont realise is F2P isent F2P... it means having a cash shop where important stuff will NEED to be bought there to complete end-game stuff... in the long run most people end up paying as much if more more then the 10-15$ montly fee. i HATE "F2P" games and doubt FFXIV will ever become that.

They have a big discussion about this on Tera, P2W Pay 2 win. I abhor this. A game run by greed will not be a game that succeeds. At the same time I see similarities in Tera and ARR I would rather not see. But the ps3 version of the game gives me hope it is not as complex as it seems if it can be completely controlled with a gamepad as 1.0 was.

[Ksenia]

This game is NOTHING like Tera. I'm not going to sit here and slag Tera. It is one of the most beautiful games out there but as much as I get wide eyed at how well they did with their character creation, I've never hooked in to a character there enough to even break level 20.

FF14 has two things Tera never had. Crafting, real crafting and Sandbox leveling. All be it, poorly scaled sandbox leveling, it's there and it's the way I prefer to level. I was more than content to go out in Arborea and farm hides to level. Getting 125 exper when I needed 300,000 and taking quite a while to get that 125 was my gripe. It's the same in Tera and done by design. They don't even have a real crafting system let alone a stand alone option to be one.

It would be a lot easier for FF14 to replicate the things Tera has going for it than the other way around. They are two different creatures because of the roots of the games.

[Alhanelem]

3: ARR pretty much going to be called a wow-clone no matter what it have everything that a standard mmo should have.

Not saying i agree with what you're saying, but that's quite a catch-22 you're describing. generally "wow-clone" is used in a derogatory manner, both by players of WoW (other games are just copying us) and by players of other games (omg WoW sucks!). Yet you're saying it will be called a wow clone because it has things that, at least according to you, MMOs *should* have. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say: are you trying to say that this game shouldn't have things that every MMO "should" have, because it will be called a "wow clone"?

[kazaran]

SE won't let it go F2P, need revenue for expansiosn to be good.