Scared about ARR

[Ryokyu]

And yet you sound like this was your first alpha version participation.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that I totally disagree with your opinion.
I don't explain in detail, as you didn't either.

u disagree with what? im just saying the game is boring how it is there no explanation there i say it, the lving up to lv20 is was boring as fuck no challenge and i know is just lv20 but what if the game continue been like that until lv50? boring as fuck sorry but u dont have nothing good to say only u said i disagree with nothing to back you up

[VitoScaletta]

What people dont realise is F2P isent F2P... it means having a cash shop where important stuff will NEED to be bought there to complete end-game stuff... in the long run most people end up paying as much if more more then the 10-15$ montly fee. i HATE "F2P" games and doubt FFXIV will ever become that.

They have a big discussion about this on Tera, P2W Pay 2 win. I abhor this. A game run by greed will not be a game that succeeds. At the same time I see similarities in Tera and ARR I would rather not see. But the ps3 version of the game gives me hope it is not as complex as it seems if it can be completely controlled with a gamepad as 1.0 was.

[trep]

u disagree with what? im just saying the game is boring how it is there no explanation there i say it, the lving up to lv20 is was boring as fuck no challenge and i know is just lv20 but what if the game continue been like that until lv50? boring as fuck sorry but u dont have nothing good to say only u said i disagree with nothing to back you up

The goal of the alpha wasn't to be challenging or hard, it was for stress testing and bug reporting.

Also, it was possible for you to create your own challenge and get a party to go kill some adamantoise or try a levequest much harder than you could take. Basically, it's like playing a demo for 80h and go on saying the game is too easy and short.

There's a difference between hard and challenging. In my experience running heroic 25 mans in WoW, the line between beating a boss and whiping was very thin. I give that to blizzard, they did a very good job on balancing these instances and bosses and i'm quite interested in seeing what they come with in FFXiV.

[Ksenia]

This game is NOTHING like Tera. I'm not going to sit here and slag Tera. It is one of the most beautiful games out there but as much as I get wide eyed at how well they did with their character creation, I've never hooked in to a character there enough to even break level 20.

FF14 has two things Tera never had. Crafting, real crafting and Sandbox leveling. All be it, poorly scaled sandbox leveling, it's there and it's the way I prefer to level. I was more than content to go out in Arborea and farm hides to level. Getting 125 exper when I needed 300,000 and taking quite a while to get that 125 was my gripe. It's the same in Tera and done by design. They don't even have a real crafting system let alone a stand alone option to be one.

It would be a lot easier for FF14 to replicate the things Tera has going for it than the other way around. They are two different creatures because of the roots of the games.

[hikoneko]

TERA goes f2p cuz they're losing customers
Main reason is the game lack of end-game content, max lvl ppl got nothing to do beside looping boring dungeons, abusing the low lvl in the pvp battleground, go crazy on world chat. i know cuz that's what i did over past couple months and i saw many ppl left becuz of that, it's getting bored at the end. In general, you don't have a goal you want to achieve in the game.

Other mmos are competitors to FFXIV:ARR, but so does FFXIV:ARR itself would be a strong competitor to other upcoming mmos, i dun really worry much about it.

[Zenaku]

1. Can't be any more boring then grinding the same mobs over and over again to level, at least with quest leveling you get to do different things go to different zones.

2. The old TP system was very slow paced not up to the standards of today's action packed mmo

3. Have you even played WoW? If you did you would know its pretty much nothing like ARR. The races alone are totally different way different storylines too.

1: Quest you solo all day boring like hell and you get sick of it quick i ended up doing dungeon in wow then questing how boring it got. FFXI/FFXIV1.0 sit around killing mobs all day while watching tv was easy and i enjoy it i also get to meet people on my world and get to know people better.

2: I enjoy both system so can't say much about it but i say i like the old way little better.

3: ARR pretty much going to be called a wow-clone no matter what it have everything that a standard mmo should have. People wont see the part we get to say from day one which everything that happen later. The questing, the bid system, free company have type of perks are people going to think and go omg what a dam wow-clone and that what they ask for but they still bitch. The only thing FFXIV have going for it right now is PS3 version,great CS storyline, Final Fantasy stuff, you only need one char. other wise i don't see anything else it going for it beside the fact that it's 10x better then any wow-clone i every played lol but overall it going to be call that matter if we like it or not.

[Alhanelem]

3: ARR pretty much going to be called a wow-clone no matter what it have everything that a standard mmo should have.

Not saying i agree with what you're saying, but that's quite a catch-22 you're describing. generally "wow-clone" is used in a derogatory manner, both by players of WoW (other games are just copying us) and by players of other games (omg WoW sucks!). Yet you're saying it will be called a wow clone because it has things that, at least according to you, MMOs *should* have. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say: are you trying to say that this game shouldn't have things that every MMO "should" have, because it will be called a "wow clone"?

[Alerith]

u disagree with what? im just saying the game is boring how it is there no explanation there i say it, the lving up to lv20 is was boring as fuck no challenge and i know is just lv20 but what if the game continue been like that until lv50? boring as fuck sorry but u dont have nothing good to say only u said i disagree with nothing to back you up

He is stating his opinion, which is exactly what you are doing. Neither of you is right, neither of you is wrong. You think the game is boring, he disagrees.

To say he has nothing good to say just because he disagrees with you only shows your own stupidity.

[Ryokyu]

The goal of the alpha wasn't to be challenging or hard, it was for stress testing and bug reporting.

Also, it was possible for you to create your own challenge and get a party to go kill some adamantoise or try a levequest much harder than you could take. Basically, it's like playing a demo for 80h and go on saying the game is too easy and short.

There's a difference between hard and challenging. In my experience running heroic 25 mans in WoW, the line between beating a boss and whiping was very thin. I give that to blizzard, they did a very good job on balancing these instances and bosses and i'm quite interested in seeing what they come with in FFXiV.

i understand what u saying god people dont read right! im SAYING!!!! I KNOW IS ALPHA AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANING FOR THAT, BUT IM SAYING IF!!! THE GAME STAY LIKE THAT EVEN IN THE BETA IS GONNA BE BORING AS HELL THATS WHY IM WAITING ON THE DAMN BETA TO SEE HOW WELL THE GAME IS!!!! GOD.................. sorry for cap when i start writing i forget to take it out lol

[Alerith]

i understand what u saying god people dont read right!

You also don't type right.