Family Matters

[Forgo]

Badum-tish....

lol i am as dumb as i act sometimes...>.> or i act dumb as i am....or... <.< O.o

[Mihana]

Slightly interesting concept, but rather than any childbirth stuff I'd rather see something like the ability to get married, live together in a same house perhaps, and just raise a chocobo. If having a kid is insistent, allow adopting a kid. Since Dalamud fell you can be certain there's probably plenty of orphaned children if you really want to "adopt" one. But overall I think it's better to leave the parenthood mechanics strictly to chocobo raising.

I'm a roleplayer too when I say this but it feels like a mechanic that's not really needed at all.

[Wyyote]

Slightly interesting concept, but rather than any childbirth stuff I'd rather see something like the ability to get married, live together in a same house perhaps, and just raise a chocobo. If having a kid is insistent, allow adopting a kid. Since Dalamud fell you can be certain there's probably plenty of orphaned children if you really want to "adopt" one. But overall I think it's better to leave the parenthood mechanics strictly to chocobo raising.

I'm a roleplayer too when I say this but it feels like a mechanic that's not really needed at all.

Bruce Wayne was an orphan. This idea has merit!

[Forgo]

Bruce Wayne was an orphan. This idea has merit!

Two batman jokes in one thread? O.o nice XD

[VoltaAsura]

[Shougun]

No one is forcing you to get married and have kids. If you don't wanna do it, that's your choice, but at least have it as an option because there are probably quite a few people out there that would welcome it.

Like I said, I dont know where you are from but sex is a pretty big topic (even though its extremely normal.. lol) and if you added even a nod of sexual relations in an mmo, you'd get quite the press, SE would really have to be dedicated to the idea else they would get a lot of shit for nothing. Single player games are different because the relation is fake (person to computer, not person to person), you'd just get made fun of by some of your non-gamer friends or your wife for picking the alien in mass effect... .. :P

As well as losing some of the younger generation because their parents wouldn't want their child playing a game where they could make such choices (you can disagree with their choices but that doesn't stop what they will do). I think your statement "you dont have to do it" is quite applicable for those out of the house, but I do think SE is going to target the 13+, not the 18+.

I really do like your idea and I love rpg games that let you rp many elements logically - but for this game I think you should try to adapt it (like chocobo babies/pets, or perhaps making a family from existing 'aged (non baby)' players).

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Like I said, I dont know where you are from but sex is a pretty big topic (even though its extremely normal.. lol) and if you added even a nod of sexual relations in an mmo, you'd get quite the press, SE would really have to be dedicated to the idea else they would get a lot of shit for nothing. Single player games are different because the relation is fake (person to computer, not person to person), you'd just get made fun of by some of your non-gamer friends or your wife for picking the alien in mass effect... .. :P

As well as losing some of the younger generation because their parents wouldn't want their child playing a game where they could make such choices (you can disagree with their choices but that doesn't stop what they will do). I think your statement "you dont have to do it" is quite applicable for those out of the house, but I do think SE is going to target the 13+, not the 18+.

I really do like your idea and I love rpg games that let you rp many elements logically - but for this game I think you should try to adapt it (like chocobo babies/pets, or perhaps making a family from existing 'aged (non baby)' players).

I don't want to make relations between game characters and having it being a mini-game of what to do in the bedroom. Not for me. Just keep the game as it is.

[Shougun]

I don't want to make relations between game characters and having it being a mini-game of what to do in the bedroom. Not for me. Just keep the game as it is.

Lol I dont think OP ever suggested to make it a mini-game. Even talked about doing it tastefully which I appreciate.

But the game target audience is too young, literally and mentally and the rest are mostly casual people (either dont care to think about or dont want to have to think about- hence so many vanity suggestions abound (at least from forum appearance)). So the idea falls a little flat right there. But I do believe you can adopt a lot of these ideas in raising your chocobo, certainly having emotional screen play and unique screens for couples would be cool, imo.


Like I said to him, I think his idea has substance and place- its just not here.

[Lucke]

Lol I dont think OP ever suggested to make it a mini-game. Even talked about doing it tastefully which I appreciate.

But the game target audience is too young, literally and mentally and the rest are mostly casual people (either dont care to think about or dont want to have to think about- hence so many vanity suggestions abound (at least from forum appearance)). So the idea falls a little flat right there. But I do believe you can adopt a lot of these ideas in raising your chocobo, certainly having emotional screen play and unique screens for couples would be cool, imo.


Like I said to him, I think his idea has substance and place- its just not here.

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about a CS of doing the deed, or some mini-game or some such. I just gave an idea that I haven't seen in an MMO (reasons why are subjective really). Lots of RPGs have some form of raising a family, like Fable, and the Hearthfire expansion for Skyrim.

Admittedly, those games were rated "M" (or the EU equilivent, as far as Skyrim is concerned), and single-player as well. I would be curious as to see the age demographic of FFXIV (and Final Fantasy as a series). Lots of the people who started with FF1 and FF7 to a degree are older now and have families of their own.

People tend to think that "if it's an option then I have to do it". That's not it at all, it's an option, ala optional. If you don't want to get married, then don't. If you don't want kids, then don't. If you don't want to raise a chocobo, then don't.

There's obviously gonna be chocobo raising, but really, that's quite old, and been done to death. If I want to think my character is a chocobo breeder, why is it so taboo to play him as a father? I guess I *COULD* say he's a father, with non-existent children lol.

Really, the point of this suggestion is for SE to do something that hasn't been done (in an MMO as far as I know). Should they risk this when they already have so much to win back? Not really, that's why I said one or two expansions down the road, after ARR has come out and been in the market for a year or two.

[Shougun]

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about a CS of doing the deed, or some mini-game or some such. I just gave an idea that I haven't seen in an MMO (reasons why are subjective really). Lots of RPGs have some form of raising a family, like Fable, and the Hearthfire expansion for Skyrim.

Admittedly, those games were rated "M" (or the EU equilivent, as far as Skyrim is concerned), and single-player as well. I would be curious as to see the age demographic of FFXIV (and Final Fantasy as a series). Lots of the people who started with FF1 and FF7 to a degree are older now and have families of their own.

People tend to think that "if it's an option then I have to do it". That's not it at all, it's an option, ala optional. If you don't want to get married, then don't. If you don't want kids, then don't. If you don't want to raise a chocobo, then don't.

There's obviously gonna be chocobo raising, but really, that's quite old, and been done to death. If I want to think my character is a chocobo breeder, why is it so taboo to play him as a father? I guess I *COULD* say he's a father, with non-existent children lol.

Really, the point of this suggestion is for SE to do something that hasn't been done (in an MMO as far as I know). Should they risk this when they already have so much to win back? Not really, that's why I said one or two expansions down the road, after ARR has come out and been in the market for a year or two.

If you convince SE to desire to create more depth, and less casual / skin deep 'stuff', then I will give you my kupo nut lol.

I also agree to an extent on optional content - obviously when the content becomes advantageous to character skill or some other subjective advantage then it becomes a little bit more of a gray area. Like people trying to say "teleporting is optional" I have to say "no, its not". Almost no one is ever going to wait for you to take a 4 min airship to location if you can do it instantly- existence of some options actually create only the impression they are optional.

Also I did plus one your post :P

Uhh. In Ragnarok Online you could adopt other people's characters, making them have shrunk character sprites. They were no combat pets last time I touched that game.

That could be a way to go to introduce those mixed races from one of the polls. For example being able to specify your parent characters on character creation (with their consent and them being actually married, of course), setting the race to a mix of those two races, i.e. lala'qote.

Does a Roe x lala look like a hyur? lol I would be very interested in seeing what SE thinks of cross race, specially visually. Would add a lot more customization, I think I would cross race my character If I had the option XD