NINJA...New Pet Class!

[Akujin]

I like the idea of nin as a pet job but I have to disagree with nin being a good tank job on FFXI, nins have no def lack true hate holding skills (minus provoke with war sub) and a good pld could out tank a nin tank if they knew how to work hate..not hating nin tanks but I have seen alot of them fail...(of course it might have been player skill rather then job at that point but hey..)

Sadly, you're mistaken, very, very mistaken. While its true Ninja didnt have any outright enmity generating abilities like Flash or Cure as PLD had, Ninja could subjob Warrior to utalize Provoke. The thing that made Ninja so viable as a tank class were the Utsusemi Shadows, allowing you to bypass attacks completely, that and Ninjas have a damn good native evasion as well. Paladins towards the end of my own playing days began to subjob Ninja for that reason, for the shadows, sacraficing provoke and defender for the saftey net of not being a blood tank. When going up against certain HNMs that hit really really hard, the shadows were invalueable in keeping the tank alive. Its not a question of WHM skill either, if a WHM is spending all of their time just trying to manage a dying PLD's hp with non stop cure spam (which happens sometimes regardless), then their going to be incapable of dealing with other "oh shi-" moments when they pop up. And if a fight goes too far, Refresh will only manage so much to compensate the cure spam from the pld and the whm's. So Ninja was a great tank class, it honestly changed the entire way fights were approached when it became used that way.

Now, personally, I'd rather see the Ninja's of XIV take on a DD/Stealth like role rather than an tank role as well. Where the Ninja job is utalizing things like sneak attacks, smoke bombs, poison tipped shurikens and darts, etc. Making it into a pet class would be different.

[Jennika]

Sadly, you're mistaken, very, very mistaken. While its true Ninja didnt have any outright enmity generating abilities like Flash or Cure as PLD had, Ninja could subjob Warrior to utalize Provoke. The thing that made Ninja so viable as a tank class were the Utsusemi Shadows, allowing you to bypass attacks completely, that and Ninjas have a damn good native evasion as well. Paladins towards the end of my own playing days began to subjob Ninja for that reason, for the shadows, sacraficing provoke and defender for the saftey net of not being a blood tank. When going up against certain HNMs that hit really really hard, the shadows were invalueable in keeping the tank alive. Its not a question of WHM skill either, if a WHM is spending all of their time just trying to manage a dying PLD's hp with non stop cure spam (which happens sometimes regardless), then their going to be incapable of dealing with other "oh shi-" moments when they pop up. And if a fight goes too far, Refresh will only manage so much to compensate the cure spam from the pld and the whm's. So Ninja was a great tank class, it honestly changed the entire way fights were approached when it became used that way.

Now, personally, I'd rather see the Ninja's of XIV take on a DD/Stealth like role rather than an tank role as well. Where the Ninja job is utalizing things like sneak attacks, smoke bombs, poison tipped shurikens and darts, etc. Making it into a pet class would be different.

That's the great part about NIN in FFXI, they players took it and made it their own tank. The players will always innovate. If the game doesn't pigeonhole us into set rolls, we will innovate in FFXIV also.

I still have the Brady Games guide that said that NIN/RDM will be the "ultimate elemental fighter" lmao.