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    The whole basis of a ninja is to stay low ("keep a low profile"), that is what they are "irl" and that is what they were meant to be in FF - except what happened in FFXI lol.

    That said I think because Yoshida seems to be moving away from consumables (no scrolls) and because normally ninjas have access to small magics that you could make shadow clone an expensive spell to reapply - in such a way they could temporarily tank but never could they tank for long periods of time (out of mana = death, GCD running too many monsters attacking = death).

    Also using (ninjas) them effectively would mean that you want to use your magic (mp) for other spells and only use shadow as a last resort. Furthermore using the shadow skill would use up your GCD, so you wouldn't be able to use your other skills for damage (and holding hate) - basically sub tank.

    Finally I think the shadow clone skill should reduce hate (monster lost sight of you), because thats what a ninja would be doing with a shadow clone.


    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ninja_(Job)
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-06-2013 at 07:35 AM.

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    Fusional with rosey ffxi nostalgia goggles lol ....people made SE rip their hair off on NIN as they insisted in making it do what it was not supposed to ..nerf after nerf and people kept at it till SE gave up ..but with FFXIV engine that ain't happening ..what other FF games have NIN and how it is used in them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Fusional with rosey ffxi nostalgia goggles lol ....people made SE rip their hair off on NIN as they insisted in making it do what it was not supposed to ..nerf after nerf and people kept at it till SE gave up ..but with FFXIV engine that ain't happening ..what other FF games have NIN and how it is used in them?
    What does the engine have to do with se listening to complainers and netting jobs?

    On topic ninja shouldn't have a pet but should use this
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    When ever they do implement ninja i wanna see some cool hand incantations for spells like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSIYAVRJOTg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    If you want to make PLD be a little bit more beefier in the dps department then fine - but right now he sucks at everything but tanking, and to suggest someone to be better then him at that would be very poor balancing.

    So either ensure other classes cant supplant PLD in his sole purpose or buff him in another purpose and it doesnt matter (because then he has more then one purpose).

    Want to add Agrias in FFT would be perfect reason to buff PLD damage, Agrias was a beast.. lol

    (And giving him a hybrid purpose would let trade off scenarios be balanced - but being mono purposed no trade off situation would be balanced)
    Fixed for you.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    thats a tp move right there lolz
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    You cannot put a ninja in a tidy box and say thats what we are

    We are the unexpected

    We are not born typical

    We do not conform to your preconceived notions

    This is not mythbusters, myth is not busted
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    Pick one which Ninja you want to see









    Or just put them all in a blender!!!
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    Last edited by Warlock; 01-06-2013 at 03:48 PM.

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    mmmmm ninja smoothie yum
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