NINJA...New Pet Class!

[ChiefCurrahee]

I think thats a great idea. The dog would be a minor DD, and support through skills.

For instance you can have the dog:
"tackle" and stun the target.
"Growl" and have a short duration paralyze
"howl" and give an attack bonus
"bark" to act as a provoke.
and "retrieve" to be used as a pulling tool.

Ninja can still use ninjitsu magic and dual wield.

I think that it's a perfect addition to make the job new for a new FF game.

[stanleyyoung]

when i first read through this thread i immediately thought of Yojimbo from 10. Your guys suggestion and examples are neat & cool also putting a spin on the classic ninja or typical one most ppl want (aka 11). Im all for new ideas and new ways to design classes/jobs to make 14 unique i rather have something new or at least a traditional class/job with a neat spin on it.

I hope Yoshi-p will add musketeer with its corresponding job before adding any other new classes & jobs(obviously after acn and smn) since it already has a theme, story, guild etc behind it. Something like samurai, ninja, blue mage, dark knight, etc i hope they will add those eventually but give them each their own theme, setting, city, etc etc to make them unique not just add a guild to one of the 3 cities and little story line behind it because they are popular demand. These new and possible upcoming classes/jobs need to be done right and and given much attention from SE when designing them and implementing them.

[Biggs]

I don't care how they do ninja this time as long as the community doesn't take it and use it in a really stupid way like they did in xi. No ninja tanks pls

[Warlock]

I don't care how they do ninja this time as long as the community doesn't take it and use it in a really stupid way like they did in xi. No ninja tanks pls

I don't think NIN can become a tank even if they tried ...i don't see how WAR+Bravura and PLD+spirit's within can be beaten..

[fusional]

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[fusional]

I don't care how they do ninja this time as long as the community doesn't take it and use it in a really stupid way like they did in xi. No ninja tanks pls

'stupid' way? are *you* stupid? it was completely ingenious. are you sore you've never thought up anything innovative and unexpected like that in an MMO? and square added yonin and innin later anyway to augment their ability to be either tank or DD for whatever situation, so your position is ridiculous either way.

you're probably just another one of those dudes that's like AW MAN I JUST LUV 2 DUAL WIELD SWISH SWISH SWISH and then got shunned by parties when you subbed thief

[Shougun]

'stupid' way? are *you* stupid? it was completely ingenious. are you sore you've never thought up anything innovative and unexpected like that in an MMO? and square added yonin and innin later anyway to augment their ability to be either tank or DD for whatever situation, so your position is ridiculous either way.

Ninja supplanting PLD is ridiculous in any way - the class is supposed to be the tank, else they've got crap damage and crap tanking ability and that makes a crap class.

[fusional]

Ninja supplanting PLD is ridiculous in any way - the class is supposed to be the tank, else they've got crap damage and crap tanking ability and that makes a crap class.

you don't know what you're talking about. ninja never supplanted PLD, they just became a fad job for specific periods. good PLDs were always needed for endgame. just as they are now. let me know how your legion groups do without PLD tanks.

are you guys all sore because NIN was more popular for exp? obviously they'd be more popular- they did more damage and required less healing, leading to faster chains.

[Shougun]

you don't know what you're talking about. ninja never supplanted PLD, they just became a fad job for specific periods. good PLDs were always needed for endgame. just as they are now. let me know how your legion groups do without PLD tanks.

are you guys all sore because NIN was more popular for exp? obviously they'd be more popular- they did more damage and required less healing, leading to faster chains.

So you are saying PLD should suck at tanking until end game? Thats stupid. PLD is the tanking class, at any point in the game they should be a superior tank. PLD needs to be included in the scheme of leveling up.

[Duelle]

'stupid' way? are *you* stupid? it was completely ingenious. are you sore you've never thought up anything innovative and unexpected like that in an MMO?

Odd, as I normally agree with you, but...

Not sure if trolling.

Ninja tanks are iconoclastic to how ninja are presented, both in Final Fantasy and in pretty much all fiction that's ever used them. The ninja strikes from the shadows and is as quick as the night. He's not the center of attention in a fight because they wouldn't last as long against foes the way a knight in armor would.

That's not mentioning that gameplay choice was dead once Utsusemi tanking became mainstream. There were no DPS and tank specs for NIN.

are you guys all sore because NIN was more popular for exp? obviously they'd be more popular- they did more damage and required less healing, leading to faster chains.

Which alone borked class balance during the leveling experience. PLD becoming the "well, we might as well take him because we can't find a NIN" type of choice is beyond unfair when PLD was designed from the ground up to tank.

Let us not forget that up until the increase in AoE use for encounters and the change to make AoE wipe Utsusemi, NIN tanks could laugh at things that would tear a PLD to pieces.