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  1. #31
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    Punainen's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    Oh this, I'll probably run around the world 10 times before completing anyone of these. Yours are just as tedious and more so.
    Apparently you've never heard of long-term goals. And no, mine are not more tedious. Mine could be completed while leveling or going for the craft/gather X number of times achievements, or picked up bit by bit over a span of time, where as your idea requires setting aside possibly HOURS of time to dedicate to NOTHING except that one achievement.
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  2. 01-05-2013 11:25 AM
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  3. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    Not many people level with achievements in mind, personally I don't. Usually people get into achievements when they get bored. So most people will be completing it after leveling so it will be tedious.
    It can still easily be gotten while doing the craft/gather X amount of times, and is far less tedious than those already existing achievements. And your own personal opinion is not necessarily an accurate sample of what 'people usually do', or 'most people'.
    And apparently you're five years old, because upon being unable to lean upon the merits of your own ideas, you think attacking someone else's ideas will bring merit to your own.
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  4. 01-05-2013 12:06 PM
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  5. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    I think we already went over this point. Both our ideas is less tedious than some of the ones that already exist. My opinion about achievements is common sense. Achievements are not key to the game, it's an activity to do when main activities of the game are exhausted. People don't go play games for achievements, they play them for the game content. There are few people that like achievements a lot more than others and will focus on them while playing the game.

    If you don't like my definition of achievements, here's what's stated on wikipedia: "Achievements are included within games to extend the title's longevity and provide players with the impetus to more than simply complete the game but find all of its secrets. They are effectively arbitrary challenges laid out by the developer to be met by the player. These achievements may coincide with the inherent goals of the game itself, such as completing a level, with secondary goals such as finding secret power-ups or levels, or may also be independent of the game's primary or secondary goals, such as playing a certain number of times, viewing a video, beating a certain number of online opponents or completing a level in a certain amount of time. Certain achievements may refer to other achievements - many games have one achievement that require the player to have gained every other achievement."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_(video_gaming)

    Calling me five years old is no different than attacking others ideas. I compared my idea to yours because yours is comparability as bad.
    Why are you now writing walls of text attempting to define the WORD "achievement"? No one was trying to do that. Were you having trouble knowing what the word meant?
    You were not comparing ideas. You abandoned the defense of your own in order to say mine are bad just because you had no viable defense, so you instead went for offense.
    Feel free to write another text wall of irrelevant remarks about grammar, but it is pretty clear to me that you are just grasping at straws here.
    And I find that talking to people who derail their own arguments by pretending the other party needs a vocabulary lesson (when there was previously no debate over what the definition of any word was), is just petty and pointless, and not even vaguely entertaining, and thereby a complete waste of time. And on that note....good day to you.
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  6. 01-05-2013 12:37 PM
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  7. #34
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    I'd like to see a few achievements that requires players to "track and hunt" monsters. Ideally mobs that are higher then level 50, and would require a fair amount of effort to down solo. These mobs would have unique or variable spawn conditions (similar to Dodore), and random locations. Ideally, through a previous quest, one could even collect gear that would help with the tracking. The important thing is, they could be anywhere in said zone, so a simple guide could not help players locate the animal. The only strategy would be how to complete the fight. Examples could include:

    - Eyewear that enables the player to notice certain tracks
    - Footwear than allows you to cover ground faster (in order to catch your target)
    - A body piece that actually attracts the mob to you (maybe stalking the player once they move apart from a crowded area, or during a certain moon phase, etc.)

    The difficulty of the fight would yield a unique title or piece of gear, maybe GC points, etc. Mechanics could even be added to help survive the battle where players would outfit themselves in materia gear that shielded them from certain effects or elements.

    There was a quest near Horizon in 1.0 that had you track a pieste if I remember correctly. While the mechanics of that quest were rather tedious, it presented something new and unexpected from the rest of the quests at the time. I also liked when Dodore was one of the few NMs in the game, there was a bit of excitement with weather changes, and people flocked to the zone to get a chance to take him down.

    Unique quests like this always peaked my interest.
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    Last edited by Wyyote; 01-05-2013 at 01:14 PM.

  8. #35
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    my suggestion is scrap the whole thing cause it's just a over rated playstation trophy system. if you don't do most this stuff naturally a normal person wouldn't even do it. and the reality is, almost all of it is just that, it's stuff you would do anyway. it's re wrapping it and calling it extra content. gw2 if you didn't collect 100% maps, there was 100% nothing to do lol.

    these reward and achievement systems that have plagued our games is a joke. if you don't get what they are in offline games? they are just little ways to cheaply give extra content to kids with no lives waiting for there next b'day to get another game. it's not for a normal person. how bout you go on playstation right now, and link every single person you see's trophies. i bet you 1million dollars that you won't find a one person with 80-100% on any of his games. i did it for ff13 only in my life and it broke my ps3 lmao. but that is a diff story all together.

    when you run places there should be a reason other then i get an achievement. when you craft 5000 things it's not for the achievement at least shouldn't be, it should be cause your leveling a craft or making stuff to sell. when you eat a banana you don't get some reward for eating the whole thing, you were gonna eat it anyway, if you weren't then you wasted your time doing it for a pointless reason. and don't most of you bitch about your time being to special to be playing games for more then 10hrs a week, why would you want to spend it doing achievements. i dunno.

    but lol if it's gotta be in the game, i would like to see maybe speed time kills for nm's(open world ones)? killing them solo is easy but maybe say you have to kill all or some of them in a time period impossible solo and people group up and kill them all. eventually when caps raise they will be able to solo this so it fixes any issues with future not finding people.

    maybe add a twist to how you beat other content, that way it's little different and during a farm run you can try it that way for one try just for the achievement. but again i rather mmo's scrap achievements personally i think it's not adding to the game it's ruining it. and i say ruin only cause the devs then consider there time adding this 2cent cheap content into game as content. take that time and add even 5more minutes of dungeons and it would of been better time spent. that my opinion of course ..flame on if want but i'm not some door to door sales man trying to resell you your house.
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  9. #36
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    Manifesto
    While aren't trying to resell said house you are not against burning it down...Most achievements are just like most collectibles useless markers of completion. But I agree with Goichi Suda no game is complete with out the mindless fun of collectibles. Achievements are not the same as content and I don't remember any update that highlighted achievements alone.

    It is a menu option that displays on off switches in the code. Chances are they were needed for other things for instance prereqs for other quests and they just gave them a menu display. But removal of this harmless system isn't going to change anything except have some people miss out on the "fun" they have collecting them.

    Just like the holidays in game are useless and really don't contribute much besides a mini game and a faux prize that is only taking people minds off of other things should they get rid of those too? People enjoy things you should just them because enjoyment in any shape or form is what its all about.
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  10. #37
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    Achivement: "Poser - Perform the /pose emote 10,000 times."

    I'd obtain it on the first day :3
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  11. #38
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    Forgo Tego
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    Achivement: "Poser - Perform the /pose emote 10,000 times."

    I'd obtain it on the first day :3
    Lol and Posing with style Perform a complete /victroypose with whole party after a boss fight
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
    Credit goes to Denmo and Nique from Masamune for this art :3

  12. #39
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    Here it is. The Derplander achievement. Complete three emotes in a row without stopping the animation.
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  13. #40
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    Paying Your Dearest Respects - pray to Louisoix where he was standing in Apkulla Falls in Gridania a certain number of times.
    What a Waste of Anima - teleport to the same aetheryte you just touched moments before.

    And, recounting something my linkshell used to do in FFXI for lulz (slightly nsfw title altered for family viewing):

    The Mad Dash - manage to survive a trek on foot without any armour equipped on a level 1 class between two citystates (like Gridania - Ul'dah).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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