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    Hell will freeze over before that happen
    no wait, we already have that last december

    Meh, not gonna happen anyway

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    There's one very good reason why they'll not release it: doing so would show just how craptastic the software design was, we know they used LUA for critical server-side processing which has been clearly inferred to be one of the causes of the severe lag in all client/server UI interactions, that about sums it up.
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    Let's not forget the legal hell that they would have to go through after releasing it, especially for protecting trademarks. As far as US law is concerned, if you don't go after people using your trademark without getting licensing from you, you lose the right to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Let's not forget the legal hell that they would have to go through after releasing it, especially for protecting trademarks. As far as US law is concerned, if you don't go after people using your trademark without getting licensing from you, you lose the right to it.
    Uh... considering how many games there are all ready that allow players to create and host their own private servers (*cough*Minecraft*cough*) I think that's rather silly thing to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    Uh... considering how many games there are all ready that allow players to create and host their own private servers (*cough*Minecraft*cough*) I think that's rather silly thing to say.
    What's silly is that anyone could think that they could take the 1.0 software, and run it on a private server and have it run even a fraction as good as the real thing, which SE was barely able to upkeep with an entire team within their company constantly maintaining it. Of course you can run Minecraft on private servers, anyone with a barely-decent computer could host their own Minecraft server within their PC with the proper knowledge. The stress Minecraft puts on a private server is seemingly 0.1% of what Version 1.0 of FFXIV would do to the same computer.

    Realistically, you'd need a team of people upkeeping one private server with constant problems, unable to fix many of them seeing as none of them are SE employees with inside knowledge of the code, engine, or anything at all. It'd be such a pain in the ass that no one in their right mind would even attempt it. The team at SE was barely able to upkeep the damn game themselves, I have every doubt in the world that someone could take over the software, apply it to a private server setting, and not have it go horribly wrong from the get-go. Maybe if 1.0 was in 32bit.

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    Just me but op:

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  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Good luck with that piece of s#!@.
    Ironically there is a XIV private server out there that ran 100x better than the official one because they cleaned up a lot of redundancies. You don't need the source code to make a PS really.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Even if they did it would suck look how bad some private servers from wow is with lot's of things not working put that x100 with how bad FFXIV is to fix shit ya good luck not going to happen they not going to give 1.0 away for free.
    This has less to do with the fact it's a private server and more to do with lazy developers. I've played a lot of Ragnarok, Maple Story and Lineage 2 Private Servers that mimicked the official releases with benefits, which are the original purpose, to give a free version of the real game.

    For example, everything from official works but it has a slightly (or greater depending) drop and exp rate and the ability to auto change your jobs/appearance without going on asinine quests if you don't want to. The ones for WoW is mostly because as of now, like FFXI and EQ, WoW is many expansions in and most players won't dedicate that kind of work to remaking the experience or making it better. XIV has almost no content that someone can easily turn it into a private server and make some changes..but that also leaves the question:

    The fact XIV has almost no content, why make a PS out of it? It makes sense for XI where you can easily take a 10 year old game with 1000s of hrs of content and make a PS and make additions, but XIV had nothing in it really. You can still do quite a bit with what's there, but that's all you'll ever have..

    XI has original, zilart, promathia, aht urhgan, goddess and abyssea areas to build around, XIV only has original and a bunch of instance zones.

    Sure you can reformat the maps if you want but that's not likely. So if you do want to make a PS, legal or not (its not) you don't need SE's code to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post
    What? I'm serious. I don't see any good reason not to.
    Maybe not any good reasons but tons of great ones.
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    SE would never do such a thing. Did they release Front Mission Online's software after they pulled the plug on the game? Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegtaru View Post
    What's silly is that anyone could think that they could take the 1.0 software, and run it on a private server and have it run even a fraction as good as the real thing, which SE was barely able to upkeep with an entire team within their company constantly maintaining it.
    Except that people run private servers for almost every other MMO out there and they run just as well as the real thing. A huge team is needed for developing content, not for hosting anything. All you need for hosting is some decent equipment. A server only needs a few basic things like power, RAM, an internet connection, and so forth in order to function. But once everything is set up, you don't even need to touch it unless something goes wrong. A server does not need to be constantly monitored by a human being in order to work.
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