Pet Classes /Personalization/?

[Tonkra]

You talk as if you never actually played BST in XI...

1) BST not getting invites to parties had NOTHING to do with charm; they simply had two decent party roles, Fish or DD, and they effectively were terrible at both in comparison to the other.. more party-orientated.. classes. Even still, in my 6 years on XI (pre Abyssea...) I was in quite a few parties with BST when I couldn't find anything else to fill the spot.

2) Charm could most certainly last longer if you were a better (geared) BST; Not to mention a noob BST has a much smaller chance of a successful recovery after missing a charm...

Beastmaster should DEFINETLY keep charm/tame as a staple to the class, period.

so what did i say differently? i know that BST was also VERY too average.
but the charm system was also a VERY (if not the most) reason for a BST not being in a party (especially in an instance)

i also wrote they should implement more skills than just a charm to the BST to distinguish much more to other classes:

for example things like:
- berserk mode (boosts melee damage, reduces defense)
- savagery (boosts evasion and acc)
- transfer pain to the pet for a certain time (20% ish)
- sacrifice pet (regain HP + stat boost for a certain time)
- use horn to call one of your saved beasts
- roar (reduces targets attack and crit chance)
- WS that cause bleedings
- fear...

many possibillities


well and you did not listen

2) Charm could most certainly last longer if you were a better (geared) BST; Not to mention a noob BST has a much smaller chance of a successful recovery after missing a charm...

woohoo.. so much better..

and you are so totally wrong.. it was not just because beastmaster was so "average" in every thing, because you cant take your beasts into an instance.. thats why i say a beast should have about 5 save slots for his tamed beasts to call them everywhere..
the jug pets in FFXI have been just a big joke,.

what does a beastmaster is useful for in a dungeon where he cant tame a beast? how useful is it for a group, when the boss itself is hardcore enough, and additionally the beastmaster has to handle/ "fight" against his own beast... and of course the worst case that he gets knocked out because of his own pet..

THESE are BIG ISSUES for non permenant charms. thats why no one wanted a minstrel in Dark Age Of Camelot to use his charm in a group ("leave your pet please aside it hits you every fucking 30 seconds..")

Beastmaster should DEFINETLY keep charm/tame as a staple to the class, period.

welcome to the last century...

and dragoons in FFXIV still have wyvern pets... yes...

this is FFXIV and not FFXI and they shouldnt make the same mistakes twice.
and a BST in FFXI was an ABSOLUTE design mess. A Dragoon in FFXIV is now also very much more popular than it has been in FFXI.

the same should happen to the BST, if they are going to introduce this job.

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No I listened, er well tried too, but your making little sense to anyone who actually played the class. Perhaps why your not getting much support... Aside from that, your ideas of abilities to supplement charm/tame aren't bad, which is why I didn't bother to address them.

My two statements still stand, regardless on if you want to try to change your view now to agree. BST invites had NOTHING to do with charm... (well in my 6 years of playing); and skill/experience definetly factored into using charm/tame effectively, not just random dumb luck...

You last comment about tame/charm being last century?! So I guess while were at it lets remove elemental magic from BLMs, Healing Magic from WHM, Jump from DRGs, etc... Yeah, you sure do make an excellent point there..

Anyway, I'm not trying to change your rather skewed opinion on the matter, I just responded because you seemed disappointed that people weren't replying to your views on the matter..