Idea: Allowing Spectators in Dungeons

[Sakasa]

Reading JP side of the thread, there are people saying they don't want this feature as they don't want to be seen.
Others mentioned like this threads suggestion where this is just an option but as some of those JP players don't want to feel that it's their fault that the PT can't be seen by others, and if they did allow the PT to have spectators they would feel bad afterwards. I'm telling you guys like the other examine thread, it's difference in culture that makes different players from different regions see stuff differently. Personally I don't understand why they are playing MMO in first place if they don't want to be seen... but I guess that's their play style so I can't say much about it, not like it's going to change their views of the game.

So the players that don't want to be seen don't want to effect players that do want to be seen. I don't think its so much cultural in that aspect as it is human consideration for another. Its the same principal of since I can help only one person helping no one is more fair. So removing the decision altogether by not having the system displaces any fault away from any player and on the game/design itself.

But I am glad that there is a unanimous understanding of why the idea is good on both sides of the sea even is there is opposition on both sides as well. Is there a German and French counter part thread as well?

[Reinheart]

So the players that don't want to be seen don't want to effect players that do want to be seen. I don't think its so much cultural in that aspect as it is human consideration for another. Its the same principal of since I can help only one person helping no one is more fair. So removing the decision altogether by not having the system displaces any fault away from any player and on the game/design itself.

But I am glad that there is a unanimous understanding of why the idea is good on both sides of the sea even is there is opposition on both sides as well. Is there a German and French counter part thread as well?

/nod only thing I don't understand is some suggested what if the system didn't mention who doesn't want the spectator mode on. Say one person in PT has a setting that they don't want spectator on, then before entering the instance, or dungeon that it just shows message saying spectator mode cannot be turned on due to anonymous person not wanting the feature on. It will keep their names hidden.

[Sakasa]

While that is valid I sure the idea of a witch hunt for the person in the group is even scarier to those that it concerns. I am not really one to put up with such grade school hi jinks of that sort but if they are so concerned about being seen and their group knowing it was them not wanting be seen their fears will manifest if either can happen regardless if it will. Anonymity is only conforming to that sort when it can literally be anyone. A group of 8-16 that cares to can easily find the person (persons) even faster if some are apart of a LS or friend lists in whispers.