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    Any spectator mode in any type of competitive PvP type game would have to be on delay if they don't want cheating. Say if you were playing a capture the flag battleground. You could have your friend on Vent spectate the game and tell you where the other teams flag carrier is or call out what the other team is doing or where they are located.

    People complain a lot about WoW not having this for their PvP arenas and battlegrounds, but the main reason Blizzard doesn't do this is because people would cheat with it if it was real time. They said something along the lines of they didn't want to do the delay thing because it would be a lot of work to program record save everything that happens then replay it at a later time and they just didn't want to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They said something along the lines of they didn't want to do the delay thing because it would be a lot of work to program record save everything that happens then replay it at a later time and they just didn't want to do it.
    I hope SE doesn't pass on this because of that. I can completely understand not making it a focus for launch if they feel they already have too much on the table BUT this idea should become a priority ASAP. ARR having a spectator system would be a pretty HUGE selling/marketing point when comparing it to current MMOs, and probably even upcoming ones.

    That 'X-factor' that SE needs for ARR to be a huge success.. yeah, this could definitely provide some of that.

    Bayohne.. I see you lurking around.. come on tell us what Yoshi saiiiiddd plzzzzzzzzz!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Any spectator mode in any type of competitive PvP type game would have to be on delay if they don't want cheating. Say if you were playing a capture the flag battleground. You could have your friend on Vent spectate the game and tell you where the other teams flag carrier is or call out what the other team is doing or where they are located.

    People complain a lot about WoW not having this for their PvP arenas and battlegrounds, but the main reason Blizzard doesn't do this is because people would cheat with it if it was real time. They said something along the lines of they didn't want to do the delay thing because it would be a lot of work to program record save everything that happens then replay it at a later time and they just didn't want to do it.
    True for normal everyday PvP cases.

    Maybe PvP can do another way around or something. like only able to see from a spot or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Any spectator mode in any type of competitive PvP type game would have to be on delay if they don't want cheating. Say if you were playing a capture the flag battleground. You could have your friend on Vent spectate the game and tell you where the other teams flag carrier is or call out what the other team is doing or where they are located.

    People complain a lot about WoW not having this for their PvP arenas and battlegrounds, but the main reason Blizzard doesn't do this is because people would cheat with it if it was real time. They said something along the lines of they didn't want to do the delay thing because it would be a lot of work to program record save everything that happens then replay it at a later time and they just didn't want to do it.
    It doesn't have to be recorded... my thought of this mode was under the assumption it was live...


    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    Maybe for PVP is best to do for only Replays... Only able to spectate if it's tournament or something... :P
    hmm a last hit instant replay would be cool... but I would assume the majority of spectator mode would be for the live experience... It would add an almost unheard of experience in MMO's, the "I was there" experience... For example, if you watched the first tournament you could say "I was there when the first first tournament king was crowned"... Although that is miniscule in comparison to the teaching application and amusement application of this mode...
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    Last edited by Kirito; 01-11-2013 at 04:03 PM.