Idea: Allowing Spectators in Dungeons

[Kirito]

I see you guys want to be able to spectate events such as raids! While we are currently looking into making this possible for coliseum events, so those that are not brawling can watch on and cheer, we do not have any plans to introduce this for battle content such as raids. The main reason is that we believe some players do not want to be watched by others as they play, and also there is possibility that unwanted videos or screenshots crop up.

I see thanks for responding... while that can be resolved by prompting a confirmation for spectator mode by all the players in the party I can see why this could be a problem if someone pressed yes in the confirmation by accident or was made to press yes by the party...

And at least we still get coliseum spectator mode... I hope they would have an option so you can view it as if your watching from the seats in the coliseum...

[Yrusama]

I see thanks for responding... while that can be resolved by prompting a confirmation for spectator mode by all the players in the party I can see why this could be a problem if someone pressed yes in the confirmation by accident or was made to press yes by the party...

And at least we still get coliseum spectator mode... I hope they would have an option so you can view it as if your watching from the seats in the coliseum...

I can see this. Combine this with someone's idea to give an achievement for rapidly slaying Primals.

Could you imagine what would happen if someone was near the end of their spree, which they were having an outsider film, and one of the newer members made a mistake that broke the chain? That video would end up on youtube and that player would be the laughing stock of the whole realm. Remember the forums on KillingIfrit where people would warn each other of erroneous players? It'd be like that.

[Exn]

Could you imagine what would happen if someone was near the end of their spree, which they were having an outsider film, and one of the newer members made a mistake that broke the chain? That video would end up on youtube and that player would be the laughing stock of the whole realm. Remember the forums on KillingIfrit where people would warn each other of erroneous players? It'd be like that.

So.. Like what?? Every other day in MMO history....?

Who hasn't made a mistake before... heck, I usually treasure the vids where I'm caught messing up or doing sumthing crazy cause I stop paying attention for a second, they are always the funniest.

And btw, whether or not there is a spectator mode, has nothing to do with whether or not people post videos on youtube, which also has nothing to do with the people that *try* to put other people down for messing up, which also has nothing to do with the fact that you shouldn't be giving any ppl like that your attention in the first place..

[Issachar]

I see you guys want to be able to spectate events such as raids! While we are currently looking into making this possible for coliseum events, so those that are not brawling can watch on and cheer, we do not have any plans to introduce this for battle content such as raids. The main reason is that we believe some players do not want to be watched by others as they play, and also there is possibility that unwanted videos or screenshots crop up.

I support this. I don't want to be watched by people I don't know while in dungeons.

[Reinheart]

I support this. I don't want to be watched by people I don't know while in dungeons.

JP thread also has same comments as yours. To this my suggestion was what if at any time if one person doesn't want to be watched like yourself have a option in the PT search which once set, it stays that way until changed again. If you set the spectator mode to 'NO' even if you're not the PT leader, it won't allow spectator mode to happen.

The main purpose I see in this spectator mode is mainly for Free Companies or Linkshell members cheering other members who were able to go in + to learn/teach strategies from spectators side.

As for the unwanted video's and screenshots crop up... comment by the reps... I'm sorry but we already got people recording although not legal using 3rd party apps and posting up on youtube and other sites. Even if you do or don't have spectator mode... those players will still be recording, taking screenshots. So I don't think that's a valid point to bring up. JP players response is similar to mine on this one as well.

[Khazar]

I see you guys want to be able to spectate events such as raids! While we are currently looking into making this possible for coliseum events, so those that are not brawling can watch on and cheer, we do not have any plans to introduce this for battle content such as raids. The main reason is that we believe some players do not want to be watched by others as they play, and also there is possibility that unwanted videos or screenshots crop up.

Otherwise devs are trying to make possible to spectate Colisseum PvP and they guess there players may want that others publish videos or screenshots or watch them eating the floor? funny.

Anyways what i want to say is, it shouldnt be so hard to add the content finder a tool like a check mark or something like that to make spectator mode available to public or not if the party or the party leader decide it because they agree with it. Or make it via invite like the above poster said.

The problems are not so hard when you look for a solution.

[Alhanelem]

I see you guys want to be able to spectate events such as raids! While we are currently looking into making this possible for coliseum events, so those that are not brawling can watch on and cheer, we do not have any plans to introduce this for battle content such as raids. The main reason is that we believe some players do not want to be watched by others as they play, and also there is possibility that unwanted videos or screenshots crop up.

i can understand those concerns, but you make spectator mode something that is enabled by the participants. People can only watch if the group is okay with it.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

I see you guys want to be able to spectate events such as raids! While we are currently looking into making this possible for coliseum events, so those that are not brawling can watch on and cheer, we do not have any plans to introduce this for battle content such as raids. The main reason is that we believe some players do not want to be watched by others as they play, and also there is possibility that unwanted videos or screenshots crop up.

Hmmm i was expecting something more good response! Please Rukkirii, tell them about the features we propose!

Spectator mode should be enabled in the consent of party members.

[Exn]

I see you guys want to be able to spectate events such as raids! While we are currently looking into making this possible for coliseum events, so those that are not brawling can watch on and cheer, we do not have any plans to introduce this for battle content such as raids. The main reason is that we believe some players do not want to be watched by others as they play, and also there is possibility that unwanted videos or screenshots crop up.

Disappointing. It's nothing special to be able to spectate a "Coliseum"-type event. That's generally the point of that type of event anyway.. why else call it a coliseum? Much like Pankration in XI had a spectating option, in which interest died out quickly...

It was a chance for ARR to stand out against competition and future MMOs who wouldn't want to take on whatever challenges were associated with bringing a spectator mode to a wider option of endgame and PVP content. Saying the main reason for not even attempting it is 'you all don't believe some players want to be watched by others as they play' is quite a trivial response. Especially as many suggestions have already incorporated a solution to that by simply having a prompt to the party leader or vote by party members.. not to mention I'm sure SE could come up with their own ideas... if they wanted too.. Or what about the players that DO want to be watched as they play... Nah, I guess SE would rather just continue sticking to the norm.. Good luck with that.

[InuraBera]

I haven't really followed the thread, however I am surprised that there would be the possibility of watching Coliseum events...if that comes to be a reality, that would be really impressive, particularly if just anyone can join in to watch. Not sure how the rating system would allow it (PEGI/ESRB) but would be great to be able to bet on people too!

For dungeons I can understand how people might not want to be watched, however would be nice to be able to actively invite only those you wanted to watch it, rather than it being free for all viewing.