Alpha First Look: Video 8 – Instanced Dungeons

[Duelle]

Yea, well, the forums have been shit since they launched. You think these forums are bad? You should see the......"other" one.

All I will say is the A LOT of people are not happy with the combat system in its current, ALPHA, form. Beta will add missing elements so I would just recommend people waiting for BETA. If you are unhappy about something in Beta be vocal about it. Constructive criticism is going to be what makes this game amazing. What will NOT help make ARR amazing is letting every small upgrade from 1.0 blind you from really fixing problems or even making something that works so much better.

Sad that this happens despite Yoshida mentioning that alpha is more for stress testing than anything else.

I can't imagine why people would be having a problem with the new battle system, outside of the whole "i wanna be different for the sake of being different" thing. It looks lively and fast-paced, at least to me who has played fast-paced systems before.

I did find it interesting that they had a dragoon tanking, and am surprised no one else has mentioned it. Then again, they had two white mages too.

[HiirNoivl]

There are no tanks in Alpha, only dragoons, bards, and White Mages

[Wynn]

There are no tanks in Alpha, only dragoons lancers, bards archers, and White Mages conjurers

Fixed. /10char

[Duelle]

There are no tanks in Alpha, only dragoons, bards, and White Mages

I was more getting at my being hopeful of 4-man dungeons being a little more open as far as group comps went.

To me the 2.0 tp regeneration seems like early 1.0 stamina system. You wear it down and then the rest of the fight you are waiting on slow tp regen which you will have no control over. People really need to take their blinders off.

I get the feeling you'll be seeing TP refunds and things that temporarily increase TP regen at some point. The headache will really be balancing 7+ jobs around one resource system in a fast-paced environment.

[syntaxlies]

This was the run around and kill stuff in an instance. Also it's Alpha and I suspect the full loot system probably isn't as shiny and sparkly as they want yet and didn't show it.

I do agree that when it is in a state of "good enough to show" they better damn well show it off since it is one of the things players and potential players want.

The whole game isn't as shiny and sparkly... Why show anything then? I'm so sick of all thes types of comments

[Yelta_Sumasu]

The whole game isn't as shiny and sparkly... Why show anything then? I'm so sick of all thes types of comments

What kind of comments O.o I was just saying they might not feel it was ready to show yet so they didn't show it.

[syntaxlies]

What kind of comments O.o I was just saying they might not feel it was ready to show yet so they didn't show it.

People telling other people the game is in alphA, stress test same comment over and over. Everyone knows they are alpha vids veryone knows its for stress testing, No need to keep saying it.

[indira]

all 3 musics are epicness.

ONLY issue i see is the timer @_@ they should only use timers if it plays a part in that instances story. such as if theres a bomb and you have to kill the boss to disarm it. timers just cause you to rush.

[Coyohma]

Sad that this happens despite Yoshida mentioning that alpha is more for stress testing than anything else.

I can't imagine why people would be having a problem with the new battle system, outside of the whole "i wanna be different for the sake of being different" thing. It looks lively and fast-paced, at least to me who has played fast-paced systems before.

"More than anything else." That's true - but that doesn't exclude discussion and feedback on other aspects. If SE didn't think this periphery stuff was important, why did they include a "Battle" section on the alpha forums? Feel free to answer that, since it's so sad that this happens.

You can't imagine why people would have a problem with the new battle system. Hmmm. Do you, who has played fast-paced systems before, realize that it boils down to either pressing 1 repeatedly, or pressing 1 and then, three seconds later, 2? For maximum DPS, the best you can possibly do, that's the entire "system."

Just because there are a lot of lights and noise on the screen doesn't mean what you're doing is impressive or complex. We can't rule out that beta will change what we've seen, even some fundamentals that currently seem limiting. But we know two things:

1) The battle system is far and away the most concerning thing about alpha
2) Beta will have to see it change drastically, otherwise ARR's battle is going to have a serious lack of performance discrepancy and depth

Tying this back into the beginning of this post, do you think it best to voice our thoughts during alpha, or is it best to say nothing until beta and just hope that our concerns are alleviated?

After 1.0 I find it indefensible to say that people shouldn't make their opinions heard as soon as possible. And as I've said, SE provided a forum specifically for this purpose.

[Reika]

Sad that this happens despite Yoshida mentioning that alpha is more for stress testing than anything else.

I can't imagine why people would be having a problem with the new battle system, outside of the whole "i wanna be different for the sake of being different" thing. It looks lively and fast-paced, at least to me who has played fast-paced systems before.

I did find it interesting that they had a dragoon tanking, and am surprised no one else has mentioned it. Then again, they had two white mages too.

There is only lancer, conjurer, and archer in alpha version. We will probably have lancers tanking it in beta too if tam-tara is involved in a 'tutorial' quest from gridania. Gridania doesnt have any tank class guilds.