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    Anyone still arguing that July isn't the release date will be in for a rude awakening. July is the hard cap release. This company is looking to release this game to a high standard. Put two and two together.

    Also, when has any game development schedule been on time? Or a release date for that matter? Also ALSO, there is always downtime for a week to two weeks after open betas. Sorry, but your hanging onto the dream of FFXIV:ARR releasing any time earlier than July is looking a little sad, bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Anyone still arguing that July isn't the release date will be in for a rude awakening. July is the hard cap release. This company is looking to release this game to a high standard. Put two and two together.

    Also, when has any game development schedule been on time? Or a release date for that matter? Also ALSO, there is always downtime for a week to two weeks after open betas. Sorry, but your hanging onto the dream of FFXIV:ARR releasing any time earlier than July is looking a little sad, bros.
    You're the one that stated that you had it on a high authority that we would have had to wait for several months for the beta and that we were all "in for a rude awakening" and all that if we believed otherwise. Since that proved to be (as expected) an obvious lie, your credibility isn't exactly at its best right now.

    1: july is not the hard cap. The end of june is the end of the schedule. Do your math.
    2: The schedule quite evidently establishes a best case scenario and a worst case scenario. Assuming the worst case scenario (actually beyond the worst case) is the only realistic one doesn't hold a shred of logic.
    3: They clearly indicated in the schedule all the downtime between phases. There's no logic in arguing that they just "forgot" to indicate the one after open beta. They just stated an "early access" as a possibility, and by all means and purposes for what we all are concerned, early access is launch.
    4: there's almost never a sizable downtime between open betas to release, especially when character data carries over.

    You're simply wrong, and the schedule proved you were lying. all yours "bros", "is looking a little sad" and "in for a rude awakening" can't hide that. May want to come to terms with the idea

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    I'm sure Yoshida has to get permission of sorts to say what he says. I'm still am Concerned on how they are going to show 40k max Legacy Members into 5-10 worlds. I figure where there's a will there's a way!
    You should not be. You seem to be a bit confused about the difference between concurrent users and total users on a server. As per Yoshida, the servers are designed to hold 5000 concurrent players. Servers designed to hold 5000 concurrencies, can *easily* hold 25-30000 or even more total users each. It's very rare for any server of any MMORPG to have more than 20% of their total userbase online concurrently. For instance EVE Online (that has an easy counter and only one server, making doing the math easy), has 450,000 users, and you'll very rarely see more than 50k people online at the same time.

    If they have even just 5 worlds on, they can easily house up to 125,000 players in total..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post

    You should not be. You seem to be a bit confused about the difference between concurrent users and total users on a server. As per Yoshida, the servers are designed to hold 5000 concurrent players. Servers designed to hold 5000 concurrencies, can *easily* hold 25-30000 or even more total users each. It's very rare for any server of any MMORPG to have more than 20% of their total userbase online concurrently. For instance EVE Online (that has an easy counter and only one server, making doing the math easy), has 450,000 users, and you'll very rarely see more than 50k people online at the same time.

    If they have even just 5 worlds on, they can easily house up to 125,000 players.
    It really depends on how many per server they can hold, the only number we can go off of is from Alpha which is 1-2k a Server. Unless you have a link that shows me how many they can house, then it's just mere speculating. As much as I wanna believe you, We just don't have the Official figures yet ( as far as I know of). I know on release time it can easily hold what you say it can hold, but for Beta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    It really depends on how many per server they can hold, the only number we can go off of is from Alpha which is 1-2k a Server. Unless you have a link that shows me how many they can house, then it's just mere speculating. As much as I wanna believe you, We just don't have the Official figures yet ( as far as I know of). I know on release time it can easily hold what you say it can hold, but for Beta?
    Yoshida clearly stated in the producer letters that the servers have to hold 5000 concurrent players. It's critical that that number is tested during the beta. So I would not worry about that. I'm quite sure they did their math. Besides, we do not have the slightest idea of how many legacy accounts there are. They do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    It really depends on how many per server they can hold, the only number we can go off of is from Alpha which is 1-2k a Server. Unless you have a link that shows me how many they can house, then it's just mere speculating. As much as I wanna believe you, We just don't have the Official figures yet ( as far as I know of). I know on release time it can easily hold what you say it can hold, but for Beta?
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IX-(11-30-2012)
    The servers for A Realm Reborn have been designed to handle up to 5,000 simultaneous connections per world. Of course, there can be more characters created for each world than that—the figure is simply the maximum number of players that can be logged in at any given time.
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    Retail? or Beta? I know they need to test these things out but on the very first phase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    It really depends on how many per server they can hold, the only number we can go off of is from Alpha which is 1-2k a Server. Unless you have a link that shows me how many they can house, then it's just mere speculating. As much as I wanna believe you, We just don't have the Official figures yet ( as far as I know of). I know on release time it can easily hold what you say it can hold, but for Beta?
    i'm sure it was 1-2k each zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Anyone still arguing that July isn't the release date will be in for a rude awakening. July is the hard cap release. This company is looking to release this game to a high standard. Put two and two together.

    Also, when has any game development schedule been on time? Or a release date for that matter? Also ALSO, there is always downtime for a week to two weeks after open betas. Sorry, but your hanging onto the dream of FFXIV:ARR releasing any time earlier than July is looking a little sad, bros.
    I don't understand the point of this argument. Because as soon as phase 4 hits, open beta, NDA lifted. Our playing of the game officially starts from phase4.(early release)as our data will not be wiped.

    Its only the PS3 that really has to wait for the release date, of going out to the store and picking up a copy. Not to mention the PS3's beta starts from phase 3, which means it will be going on far after the PC version is live. Which technically is at phase 4.

    Yah... picking up a PC box copy of the FFXIV CE (Me ) will be at the same time as the PS3 release. But We will have access to the free download of the game way before that.

    PS3 will have a Aug.-Sept release. Calling it now! PC, Well we will be playing the game already.

    Unless everyone is arguing, for when the the release is, and for actually getting started with the new adventure that awaits us. Cause those are two separate things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyhagun View Post
    I don't understand the point of this argument. Because as soon as phase 4 hits, open beta, NDA lifted. Our playing of the game officially starts from phase4.(early release)as our data will not be wiped.
    He has no point. Keep in mind that no more than a couple weeks ago he was bullshitting that he had it on high authority that we'd have to wait several months for the beta. And that we'd be "in for a rude awakening" if we believed otherwise. That's how credible he is.

    Its only the PS3 that really has to wait for the release date, of going out to the store and picking up a copy. Not to mention the PS3's beta starts from phase 3, which means it will be going on far after the PC version is live. Which technically is at phase 4.
    No. Not necessarily (besides the fact that Yoshida said several times that PC and PS3 will be released at the same time). A lot of the testing to be made is server-side and has nothing to do with the client and/or platform. The PS3 beta can easily just be made of phase 3 and 4. The content is exactly the same.
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    It's already been stated that all legacy members are in Phase 1.
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