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  1. #1
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    Aion's Avatar
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    Aion Zwei
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    Animation lock in 1.0 prevents you from moving, but you can still use abilities and WS in succession. You just can't see it through the animation.

    GCD creates an artificial urgency where it seems like you have to act every three seconds or you're wasting time/resources. It's like the stamina bar all over again. Making it longer would be tedious. Making it shorter would be chaos.

    I think it's better to lose the GCD and return to individual timers. That way, all your combos and abilities are compartmentalized and flow from one to the next.

    1.0: Combo Step 1 > animation lock > Combo Step 2 > animation lock >Combo Step 3 > This combo set is now on cooldown
    2.0 alpha: Combo Step 1 > 3s > Combo Step 2 > 3s > Combo Step 3 > 3s to the next thing

    Edit: whoops, posted too soon
    Fix'ed that for you
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    oh and, later you can reduce 3s GCD by abilities/level/equip, that might help to impose "sense of progression" for your character


    did I spit something dangerous? XD
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    Last edited by Aion; 12-21-2012 at 12:50 PM.
    Aion Zwei - Masamune

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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Me thinks you're a little late to the party.
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    Cedri Vastal
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    With the GCD I can pretend I'm Sona when I'm on BRD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shanvhere View Post
    I don't know if this was posted or talked about, but in all the videos I seen there is a GCD on the battle system, this to me seems boring, you click a ability and wait, then click same ability and wait some more. I really don't see the reasoning for the whole GCD mechanic. I would like to see longer CDs on spells.
    All MMOs have a "GCD system" to some extent, because limiting certain actions to once every few seconds (typically the shortest amount of time they could be executed anyway) drastically eases the strain on the servers. This is a technical feature for performance, not a gameplay decision to make things boring.

    But if you look at the latest alpha video, it sure doesn't look like anyone is sitting around waiting to me...
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    Doctor Beatbox
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    Excalibur
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    1.0 Stone Recast: 6 Seconds
    ARR Stone Recast: 4 Seconds

    1.0 Aero Recast: 6 Seconds
    ARR Aero Recast: 4 Seconds

    Both spells share the same cooldown timer in ARR, so you can't cast a spell immediately after using one. 1.0 didn't have this, so you could start casting a spell as soon as the other was done, while you waited for the other cooldown. 1.0 had more "spam."

    Source for ARR cooldown timers: http://youtu.be/zjDnM0uf0O8?t=53s
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    Tyger Maimhov
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    1.0 Stone Recast: 6 Seconds
    ARR Stone Recast: 4 Seconds

    1.0 Aero Recast: 6 Seconds
    ARR Aero Recast: 4 Seconds

    Both spells share the same cooldown timer in ARR, so you can't cast a spell immediately after using one. 1.0 didn't have this, so you could start casting a spell as soon as the other was done, while you waited for the other cooldown. 1.0 had more "spam."

    Source for ARR cooldown timers: http://youtu.be/zjDnM0uf0O8?t=53s
    As far as I can tell from the videos, the casting times for stone and aero are the same length as the GDC so you can cast another spell as soon as the other one is done. In 1.0 you could start casting another before the cast time for the previous was done. Semantics I know. (please don't hate me DB ; ; )
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    Last edited by finiteHP; 12-21-2012 at 09:54 AM. Reason: getting the emote to work right

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    Quote Originally Posted by finiteHP View Post
    As far as I can tell from the videos, the casting times for stone and aero are the same length as the GDC so you can cast another spell as soon as the other one is done. In 1.0 you could start casting another before the cast time for the previous was done. Semantics I know (please don't hate me DB ;
    According to the pop-up window, the casting time for stone is 3 seconds, and the casting time for aero is 2.5 seconds. In 1.0, stone was 2 seconds and aero was 3 seconds. It was still possible to cast more magic at a faster rate in 1.0.

    And I could never hate you! :3
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    Drizzt Durlyn
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Honestly I can tell so much has been changed but the changes are needed and I dont see a problem wit the new system. Plus people need to realize this is Alpha, and Beta will have some mods as well as when 2.0 is officially realeased.
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Wait until you have a level 50 job before commenting on global cooldowns we don't know how it will look like

    srs face >:|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    Wait until you have a level 50 job before commenting on global cooldowns we don't know how it will look like

    srs face >:|
    seriously guys

    srs

    GUYS

    seriously... we are just speculating at this point
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