Counter to Elitism

[stanleyyoung]

As long as there's people who has the need to throw their e-dicks around and slap people with it (typical in end-game shells/guilds) elitism will always exist. No counters no prevention it's inevitable.

Exactly. The only thing you can really do is just not play with the elites, find a group of ppl that have a similar agenda to yours or play with ppl that are known for helping others & being kind. Just let the elites play with the elites and you play with everyone you see to your liking.

[EinSoFZ]

Having an elite mentality and being a kind/considerate player are not mutually exclusive though guys. I don't really see FFXIV having a massive problem with this since the majority of content seems to be readily available to all players. Heck, in 1.0 the only true battle meant for so-called elites was maybe hard Nael (even then, it's just a fight). There was never really too much of a divide between elite and lesserplayers.

In FFXI it was an obvious thing. Here? I don't think it really exists to such a terrible degree.

[moriandrio]

In FFXI it was HNM what made the difference between hardcore and casuals and it was just the time factor. Alot of hardcore players been really friendly and helpfull they just been busy camping most of the time. Ofc there always been "elitists" around but you will have them everywhere just ignore them, they dont have fun cause they rarely have friends...

[Eekiki]

Where's Scarface Champion when you need him? I think he'd have the perfect response to this thread.

[Grim_Lion]

MMO's by nature, are not for casual gamers, and if you'r playing casually you should expect to miss some content and happily accept this. Please dont ruin gaming for the rest of us who have the time for MMO's. Please.

[SkyeWindbinder]

MMO's by nature, are not for casual gamers, and if you'r playing casually you should expect to miss some content and happily accept this. Please dont ruin gaming for the rest of us who have the time for MMO's. Please.

^^Pretty much this.

And to all the people who want to do things at their own slow pace or want to skip doing certain content yet don't like feeling left behind as far as gaining loot/achievements, Skyrim is that way. ----->

[Thunderz]

^^Pretty much this.

And to all the people who want to do things at their own slow pace or want to skip doing certain content yet don't like feeling left behind as far as gaining loot/achievements, Skyrim is that way. ----->

omg yes

why can't people understand this....

[KoujiGeki]

MMO's by nature, are not for casual gamers, and if you'r playing casually you should expect to miss some content and happily accept this. Please dont ruin gaming for the rest of us who have the time for MMO's. Please.

^^Pretty much this.

And to all the people who want to do things at their own slow pace or want to skip doing certain content yet don't like feeling left behind as far as gaining loot/achievements, Skyrim is that way. ----->

i loled. i agree with these, but the topic is about elitism. But its been stated in the whole thread, you cant be rid of it. Your best bet is to maybe start your own shells that go at your own pace and if any elitists show up do what i do and give them the boot.We've had people say our shell would never even beat CC or AV with our set ups. With the same set ups we are getting the relic speed runs, even beating Garuda who for the longest time was giving everyone a hard time even with the cookiecutting way of drgs and blms and wars, and beat it with our own set up and now garuda is a cakewalk for us. So as far as i can see Elitists can suck it!

[Reynhart]

MMO's by nature, are not for casual gamers, and if you'r playing casually you should expect to miss some content and happily accept this. Please dont ruin gaming for the rest of us who have the time for MMO's. Please.

Sorry, I must have missed the H (for Hardcore) in M.M.O.R.P.G. Oh wait...maybe it's because there isn't one.
And I still don't understand how "getting fucked by the RNG" is enjoyable.

You see, a dungeon is a content, a primal fight is a content.
Same dungeon over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is...not.

[Thunderz]

Sorry, I must have missed the H (for Hardcore) in M.M.O.R.P.G. Oh wait...maybe it's because there isn't one.
And I still don't understand how "getting fucked by the RNG" is enjoyable.

You see, a dungeon is a content, a primal fight is a content.
Same dungeon over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is...not.

Its called grinding

its how an MMO keeps you playing

if all the gear was handed to you after a month would you keep playing

and don't give me that social (chill / help with friends, etc etc) garbage