Thread: Forum outrage! An explaination?

I have been wondering something of late. Could all this forum outrage be coming form a particular group of players? Namely people who were either part of the 1.0 alpha/beta or people here from the beginning and knew why 1.0 failed.

This could be the reasons for such a vocal opposition to even the smallest of issues while the game is still in production? With how little the previous team listened to the testers and fanbase it would stand to reason that this is why people are so vocal. They are afraid of a repeat of 1.0's launch, they want to make sure they are listened to, all because they want this game to succeed.

I must admit my frustration with people gripes have been, up to this point, based on the assumption that these people are just looking for something to complain about cause they have no life. While there may be a few that fit that description, I want to say that I finally get your concern.

All I have to say now is this is a different team and they have proven that they are listening this time. They have proven this for the last 2 years through Letters from the Dev's, Dev tracking, and Players Polls. Rest assured they have read and passed along your concerns regardless if they have commented directly to you on it.

At this point, they have a vision and a goal that they are sticking with. While a few tweaks and changes might still come I doubt they are going to redesign things yet again. While there are a few features that are similar to other genres and some things not everyone will like, thats just life. You cant please everyone.

Comment on the things that concern you then let it go. SE pays people to read this stuff, have pity on them. I wouldnt doubt that after the 10th thread about "gay marriage" they stopped reading every single thing and some good ideas may have been lost amongst the bickering. Make your point, say your piece, then let it go. Hitting the "like" button on a post will be something they actually look for, the rest would be fluff.

I will end my lengthy rant with an apology. I apologize for thinking the worst of the motives for some of the frequent forum posters.

I call it the Vocal Minority Syndrome.

Wouldn't worry about it too much. Happens everywhere on the internet. A few people making loud noises that can't get what they want is all it is.

There's a couple of reasons i think:
1)many people take in vision only what they have in sight, without consider any wider POV (like the ones who take the battle system in alpha as the final one, while it's missing a lot of parts)

2)tons of players come from FFXI, which has been their only MMO, and every thing don't remember that game is shit (funny enough, on FFXI forum there's biasing like here lol). But the sad news they refuse to understand, the times where a a game that slow could exist is forever lost. At least, until you're planning to releas a very niche game, with all the problems that bring

3)what you said. A lot of peple seen their feedback ignored, and now yell to be listened. While many times they should found a good reason to yell, and not shit like goobbue...

3)because they have hands to write

4)nostalgia googles, even with 1.0 !!

All IMHO

The Pareto Principle, meaning that 80% of the griping comes from 20% of the user-base. Yes, it's true that their intentions are ultimately good in that they want a good game but as Yukikaze said they fail to recognize a different perspective beyond their own.

Originally Posted by Cedri

This is turning into an intelligent thread. New replies try to keep it that way please.

I much prefer to have this type of thread. I managed to start another intelligent thread a little while ago about Where did Yoshi-P fail you. it had lots of well thought out posts and few one liner troll comments. Thank you.

It's a mix of people who are nostalgic about FFXI (and wanted an FFXI with updated graphics) and people who are WOW-phobic.

Yoshi-P said when he joined that his plan is to modernize FFXIV by looking at what made western MMOs successful, that's literally what he's done, and that's what these people are complaining about. A modern MMO that has a few things in common with WOW.

Lately I've been reading more refreshing posts outside of the official forums than from within, with people taking the long view or comparing the development to games other than just WoW or FFXI. I find that some here either have rose-colored glasses or are jaded. That being said, the biggest complaints I'm reading is about the alpha invites (or lack thereof) and OPs post makes me think that these are people who alpha/beta tested 1.0 and haven't got one for 2.0 and are falling off their self-made pedestal.