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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    You really think they gonna start to change code/structure etc. so close to the release.
    Close to release? what makes you think we're "close to release"? And what makes you think this needs to be implemented before release?

    Seems like you have no idea about what you are talking or you would know something like this takes at least 6-12 months or even longer.
    And this time estimate is based on what exactly?

    Do you need something like this at all?
    Is it even wanted (by the majority of the players not just by Abriael)?
    Is it even worth the costs?
    and so on...
    Which is not for you to assess. Yoshida and his team can. That's why I posted this proposal here for their consideration.

    You always think you know everything better then the devs, just go and apply to SE and show them how to make their work properly....
    I didn't notice any dev posting here to say that this is a bad idea, so I'm not exactly sure why disagreeing with you would mean that I think i know everything better than the devs. Are you a developer perchance?
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    Last edited by Abriael; 12-18-2012 at 05:42 AM.

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    Close to release? what makes you think we're "close to release"?
    Beta is kinda starting soon, so that makes me think we not too far away from a release.

    You want to tell us changing the server structure/netcode is no problem did you work on it so you have any knowledge of it? You always want facts from other ppl but all you do is guessing yourself.
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    Last edited by moriandrio; 12-18-2012 at 05:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    Beta is kinda starting soon, so that makes me think we not too far away from a release.
    And how much do you think beta will last? the beta of 1.0 lasted five months, for your information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    Beta is kinda starting soon, so that makes me think we not too far away from a release.
    I would not waste my breath arguing with him i already don't believe anything he says when he said "No one from the gaming industry got a alpha invite" when in fact my friend who who interviewed Yoshi-p @ E3 got an invite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And how much do you think beta will last? the beta of 1.0 lasted five months, for your information.
    It doesn't matter how long the beta is. Beta test is not where they make major changes. Beta is when they fine tune the game and fix bugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And how much do you think beta will last? the beta of 1.0 lasted five months, for your information.
    1.0 Alpha took a lot long than 4 weeks.. and 2.0 alpha took 4 weeks.. 1.0 Beta took Months... 2.0 Beta ? hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I would not waste my breath arguing with him i already don't believe anything he says when he said "No one from the gaming industry got a alpha invite" when in fact my friend who who interviewed Yoshi-p @ E3 got an invite.
    He probably lied about it in the application. Many do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    It doesn't matter how long the beta is. Beta test is not where they make major changes. Beta is when they fine tune the game and fix bugs.
    Actually no. Beta can easily involve major changes. There have been several cases in which the game has been completely revolutioned from the state it was at the beginning of the beta to release.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    1.0 Alpha took a lot long than 4 weeks.. and 2.0 alpha took 4 weeks.. 1.0 Beta took Months... 2.0 Beta ? hmmm
    Do you really think Yoshida will settle for a short beta after all he said about wanting to polish the game like a diamond before release?

    I find it highly unlikely.

    Then again, I believe I already mentioned that this really doesn't in any way need to happen before release.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 12-18-2012 at 05:59 AM.

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    This is a great suggestion. As a designer and implementer of small to medium-scale dedicated servers for games (plus theory foundations), I can confirm there are no technical boundaries which make this impossible.

    There is no need to have this on the day of release, but if ARR runs well enough the first months they should definitely consider it. The only problem I see is the lack of motivation to break out of old and dated concepts (in this case, rather strict server segregation).
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    It just allows you to move to freely travel between local servers if you want to.
    You'll be able to change servers, you'll just have to buy a server transfer to do so.

    Logistically moving from one server to another is not an instant and easy task. Even if it were, being able to freely change servers opens up a huge can of abuse worms. You could scam someone residing on one server (who is happy where they are and doesn't want to jump around) and take the good and run to another server, swapping whenever your prey catches on. The whole reason server transfers have limitations placed on them is to minimize the abuse and the impact on the economies.

    Seperate servers exist because for most games it isn't practical to have the entire populace on a single server cluster. There are ways to do it but the server software and client have to be engineered that way from the beginning, as it is a completely different architecture/design.

    Fortunately for us, you'll be able to create characters on every server- Leveling has always been easy in this game, so if you have friends on different servers who don't want to transfer (some friends they are) you can have your cake and eat it too with multiple characters. In most games, this is commonplace- We the people who played FFXI just find this unusual because we're used to playing all the classes we want with a single character.
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    That's what I wanted ever since they said we're going to have regional servers. I don't want to have to decide between people from different regions, so this would be optimal for me. I agree that having a cross-server content finder means at least some codebase is already present. Whether they will implement this depends on how many people want it and whether the devs think it's feasible or not.

    Oh and if you don't have anything meaningful to say on topic, STFU.
    No, calling each other names doesn't count, either side.
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