Anyone wanted to see any kind of merits like FFXI had?

[kevtaylor85]

I feel like if they bring something close to merit system in ffxi , where you can upgrade your character with stats/new spells/etc would be pure awesomeness, so we can be more unique. FFXI fans likes partying and such, gathering points and such, i felt like at the end that im just wasting xp once you have reach all jobs to cap(beside craft)

[Rau]

I believe yoshi mentioned something about expanding abilities without raising the level cap.

[CamAlch]

I loved the concept in XI and wouldn't mind seeing something similar in XIV. It is nice to be able continue to develop your character in your chosen role even after you've reached cap.

Although, I might be a bit crazy as I do personally enjoy grinding in MMO's for some reason, and in XI I was happy to have a reason to do that again when I felt the desire to do so. :P

[stanleyyoung]

i really would like merits or something that's pretty much the same thing (whatever SE wants to call it for ARR). how i look at it comes from TOR were their are mobs that go from weak to champion, even at the same level they will kill you given there rank, not just level difference like usual. this comes from experience playing TOR for the first time I didn't pay attention to the rank, only the level I got into a fight and died when i tried to kill something at lv.16 but it was champion. further fights past that even a couple of elites on me pretty much took me out.

What i take from this is that in 2.0/ARR we could kinda have this similar effect but for ppl not mobs. an example is two plds at 50 with af, one does that merits ie: skill caps, earning extra abilities, traits, etc. and the other doesn't do any of these. their will be a clear difference in which one can fulfill their roles better since one top's out the job and the other doesn't. this is what i want to see between ppl on same jobs yes they could be wearing the same gear and have similar skill level but one puts the little more effort into the job and puts him over his fellow players.

i want to see ppl that whether they do a little bit or go all out be classified from weak/normal to champions, etc. I know in Xi it had merits and what not but i really want to see a clear distinction between players that go the extra mile or even miles :] yes we did have gaps between players and their jobs in 1.0 if it was their main, how much money they put into it, what gear they had, skill level, etc. but to have a gap that includes them have extra abilities, traits, etc would be nice.

[Alhanelem]

The merit system was extremely flawed. I don't want to see the specific system itself return. I do want to (eventually, not immediately) see some kind of post-level-cap advancement features, but not XI's system, because it was both too limiting and too pigeon-holey.

[Xatsh]

I would love to see a merit system come back. As others said not like XI's exact but something to advance your character without the need for level increase.

[strallaalaa]

i would like a merit system. also to add onto this system i would love it if you need item drops from dungeons and big baddies for some merit areas to be open. so lets say last boss in crystal towers drops gears but on top that a low drop rate item that you use and it will open up the addition to merit your "silence" spell or strength by a few more merits. something like that. can keep old content worth using this way too.

[Wolfie]

The merit system was extremely flawed. I don't want to see the specific system itself return. I do want to (eventually, not immediately) see some kind of post-level-cap advancement features, but not XI's system, because it was both too limiting and too pigeon-holey.

This. The "leveling-up-but-not-really-leveling" thing was bad.

Most other games have their level cap advancement in the form of gear upgrades, PVP, and zone/content unlocks.

Upgrading base stats and abilities makes it very hard to justify raising the level cap, and when you do raise it, well, you saw what happened with Abyssea.

[Isaveron]

Some form of Alternative Advancement will likely show up.

[Gramul]

This. The "leveling-up-but-not-really-leveling" thing was bad.

Most other games have their level cap advancement in the form of gear upgrades, PVP, and zone/content unlocks.

Upgrading base stats and abilities makes it very hard to justify raising the level cap, and when you do raise it, well, you saw what happened with Abyssea.

Then why should they advance the level cap at all?