Forum outrage! An explaination?

[strallaalaa]

well to answer for myself zakarnrosewood, i'm just bored. the time i would be playing ffxi i'm playing blackops 2 and every time a game ends i end up reading or posting lmao. and i personally post in the negative way rather then the positive all of you who seem to live on these forums do.

while i still think this game is above and beyond what any other mmo i've played since i quit ffxi but (tried basically every single mmo that launched since) i am not gonna hide how i feel about the direction it is going. i'm also treating each thread/op post as a single entity i'm not diving into it like ffxiv is awesome as a whole so what i don't like doesn't matter. i'm basically shit fitting on that i don't like. and it's just sad for me to see how much people like the modern direction mmo's are going ..simply put by the time i have children they probably will be paying a monthly for even offline final fantasy games cause that is the direction mmo's are going. lol anyway i got off topic again lmao.

the simple tldr answer for me is bored, and love for old school versions of mmo's and hate that we can't even get one A+ mmo to go old school now and such a high vocal majority complaining if something even remotely close starts to creep into there mmo. ....hey someone has to oppose the majority

haters gonna hate but ...who the hater is going to be next will allways change.

[DubstepNinja]

I blame high sugar high caffeine "energy drinks", nuclear proliferation and pressure on people, people on the streets

[ZakarnRosewood]

well to answer for myself zakarnrosewood, i'm just bored. the time i would be playing ffxi i'm playing blackops 2 and every time a game ends i end up reading or posting lmao. and i personally post in the negative way rather then the positive all of you who seem to live on these forums do.

while i still think this game is above and beyond what any other mmo i've played since i quit ffxi but (tried basically every single mmo that launched since) i am not gonna hide how i feel about the direction it is going. i'm also treating each thread/op post as a single entity i'm not diving into it like ffxiv is awesome as a whole so what i don't like doesn't matter. i'm basically shit fitting on that i don't like. and it's just sad for me to see how much people like the modern direction mmo's are going ..simply put by the time i have children they probably will be paying a monthly for even offline final fantasy games cause that is the direction mmo's are going. lol anyway i got off topic again lmao.

the simple tldr answer for me is bored, and love for old school versions of mmo's and hate that we can't even get one A+ mmo to go old school now and such a high vocal majority complaining if something even remotely close starts to creep into there mmo. ....hey someone has to oppose the majority

haters gonna hate but ...who the hater is going to be next will allways change.

lol, well thanks for the honest response. I kind of figured that was your motivation. I too am bored and waiting with great anticipation for the release of the game. I post while i'm at work and I'm constantly scanning for new information, I really hope this can be the game that gets me away from LoL, I play that way too much.

I want this game to be successful just as much as any fan out there since i've been a huge fan of FF after getting my hands on the NES cartridge back when i was 7. I have raised my voice on things that do concern me but dont take my calmness for acceptance or my silence for ignorance. In the end SE will hear my voice the loudest by my pocket book. I guess in a way i'm using these forums as a way to try and get involved in the community aspect of the MMO scene, something i missed out on in almost every other MMO i played. But now I'M rambling, lol

In the end i think the reason we all are still here, even after the servers are shutr down, is because we all want this game to be fun and interesting. To the best of my knowledge this game will have one feature that i havent seen in any other MMO i've played, The ability to change your class without needing to create a new character. That alone should be something that, in my opinion, could negate many of the common issues i've been hearing lately. They will create new content for all levels on a regular basis, not just end game, i doubt you can solo by questing every job to end game, maybe your first one but after that most quests will be finished aside from a few class specific ones, the FC and GC will give reasons for group play. the only thing that might be an issue, but as of yet its still not complete, is the battle system. I want to see a vid on the limit breaks in a level 45 dungeon before crying about battles.

Its still early in the development cycle, while i may have concerns, i'm reserving judgment until i get a better picture. but i guess thats just me.

[Abriael]

While I don't personally agree with most of the nitpicking, some people simply don't like certain things.

Not all MMORPGs, no matter how good, are for everyone, and even if you like a MMORPG, it's very unlikely that you'll like *everything* of it.

I would just leave it at that, without going to look for external/irrational causes or conspiracy theories. FFXIV won't be for everyone, and even if many of us will love it, there'll still be elements we like less or we won't like.

It's the nature of gaming, and even more so of MMORPGs.

[syntaxlies]

I have been wondering something of late. Could all this forum outrage be coming form a particular group of players? Namely people who were either part of the 1.0 alpha/beta or people here from the beginning and knew why 1.0 failed.

This could be the reasons for such a vocal opposition to even the smallest of issues while the game is still in production? With how little the previous team listened to the testers and fanbase it would stand to reason that this is why people are so vocal. They are afraid of a repeat of 1.0's launch, they want to make sure they are listened to, all because they want this game to succeed.

I must admit my frustration with people gripes have been, up to this point, based on the assumption that these people are just looking for something to complain about cause they have no life. While there may be a few that fit that description, I want to say that I finally get your concern.

All I have to say now is this is a different team and they have proven that they are listening this time. They have proven this for the last 2 years through Letters from the Dev's, Dev tracking, and Players Polls. Rest assured they have read and passed along your concerns regardless if they have commented directly to you on it.

At this point, they have a vision and a goal that they are sticking with. While a few tweaks and changes might still come I doubt they are going to redesign things yet again. While there are a few features that are similar to other genres and some things not everyone will like, thats just life. You cant please everyone.

Comment on the things that concern you then let it go. SE pays people to read this stuff, have pity on them. I wouldnt doubt that after the 10th thread about "gay marriage" they stopped reading every single thing and some good ideas may have been lost amongst the bickering. Make your point, say your piece, then let it go. Hitting the "like" button on a post will be something they actually look for, the rest would be fluff.

I will end my lengthy rant with an apology. I apologize for thinking the worst of the motives for some of the frequent forum posters.

Don't remember anyone asking for a global cool down or backpedaling. I'll wait to try it before I bitch but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned

[ZakarnRosewood]

I do remember the players poll asking about battles, some of the comments were the sluggish feel of it all and the pacing. Looks like they have fixed it with getting rid of the animation locks and the ability to walk backwards... why is that even a concern? For mouse and keyboard users it will make gameplay much more responsive, wouldn't you think? In a PvP battle or a high end dungeon, I have a feeling this will be welcome, I bet some wish they could have had this for the Ifrit battle.

While it may have not been directly asked for, this is what we are getting. I think it looks much better than what we did have. Besides we have yet to see how this works in a higher level situation, the concerns with these features might not be as bad as you might think at that point. I guess we will have to wait for Beta to see how it feels then.

[Kiroh]

I'm pretty excited about ARR, the problem is that I really want it ASAP.

Granted I don't complain much about things in ARR, but once in a while I do get slightly impatient and start to nitpick. I think it's more of a "if I'm waiting this long to play a game that was already released it had better be worth the wait when I can play again" sort of thing.

But I try my very best to reserve judgment until official announcements are made, or until I'm able to actually play the game myself.

[Shougun]

Awesome post Zakarn. Posts with strong (and good) human character are my favorite - something so very hard to perpetuate and demonstrate through these kinds of technological mediums.

I blame high sugar high caffeine "energy drinks", nuclear proliferation and pressure on people, people on the streets

High caffeine drinks... reads sig.. looks back up.. reads sig..

ITS YOU!!! YOUR THE PROBLEM!!!



Where is that sig from btw.. I swear I know that women and it is a really awkward feeling so.. who are they and tell me I'm wrong lol

[ZakarnRosewood]

The guys name is Reggie Watts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2FiYq55oac

Not sure about the girl, but I bet shes in one of his videos.

And i greatly appreciate the compliment, as long as you weren't being sarcastic, which I don't think you were. Like you said, its a rare thing... lol

[Shougun]

The guys name is Reggie Watts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2FiYq55oac

Not sure about the girl, but I bet shes in one of his videos.

And i greatly appreciate the compliment, as long as you weren't being sarcastic, which I don't think you were. Like you said, its a rare thing... lol

I was being serious :P

Sarcasm is pretty hard to use through typing without emotes (:eyeroll: <--), so that's generally how I do it (emotes.. lol).

Oh well maybe Ninja knows, if he checks back up here XD. Nice song btw... lol

Edit: found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f8MpPzi4bU

So weird lol, totally 'i know that person' feeling XD (pretty sure not though by credits in the video)