Forum outrage! An explaination?

[SkyeWindbinder]

lets not forget that half you fuks think grammar is relevant to a thread or post or opinion. gtfo.

^^This is what I think of what you just posted...

[Malakhim]

There shouldn't be any problem with people posting their opinions and thoughts on the game, and acknowledging someone else's post as "bullshit" just because you don't agree with their post is actual bullshit(unless a) they're grossly misinformed or b) it's for the funny :P ), but that doesn't mean that a person can't at least present an intelligent argument/disagreement without it devolving into a trollish, garbled "no U" slapfest. After spending some time browsing through the TOR forums, I was able to witness some REAL internet bile. I'd like to think that this community is better than that, and there's plenty of proof of it, so let's keep that part going.

As for grammar, I'm just going to echo one of my English professors: "If you didn't care enough to proofread what you were writing, why should I care enough to read it?"

[Genjuro]

lets not forget that half you fuks think grammar is relevant to a thread or post or opinion. gtfo.

F I post somthing lik dis, wud U tink deffernt ov me. Prolly not bt U mait B mor Nclind 2 juge me bass on my gramr. + it lens credit dat im not a ideot. + Ur eye dun bled wen ur redin dis. Try tess it out n sen somthin lik dis 2 som1. I kin garintee that u will luk lik a todal ideot n ur thots will B thron 2 da side.

...someone shoot me cause I actually had to think to write this damned thing.

[SkyeWindbinder]

F I post somthing lik dis, wud U tink deffernt ov me. Prolly not bt U mait B mor Nclind 2 juge me bass on my gramr. + it lens credit dat im not a ideot. + Ur eye dun bled wen ur redin dis. Try tess it out n sen somthin lik dis 2 som1. I kin garintee that u will luk lik a todal ideot n ur thots will B thron 2 da side.

...someone shoot me cause I actually had to think to write this damned thing.

Well done taking it to the far extreme.

I think what he meant was having one or two grammar mistakes or misspelled words do not nullify a person's viewpoint in a debate.

[Shurrikhan]

It's a mix of people who are nostalgic about FFXI (and wanted an FFXI with updated graphics) and people who are WOW-phobic.

Yoshi-P said when he joined that his plan is to modernize FFXIV by looking at what made western MMOs successful, that's literally what he's done, and that's what these people are complaining about. A modern MMO that has a few things in common with WOW.

That said, some of his work still seems too caught up on the western systems or conventions themselves, rather than why they worked for their given games. Quest density, for example, has often been a good thing, but why?

Does a grindy-addictive clickfest actually suit an FF style... wait... haven't worked through that yet...

It's never a bad idea to view and learn from your competition. But the more one focuses on what has been done, the less instinctive freedom one has in developing the actual targets of the game. And those, be in vast quest networks and diverse zones rolled through with easy humor, or party and labor-intensive gameplay over a world that feels about as realistic as fantasy can get, etc, are what will really set the game apart.

[Genjuro]

Well done taking it to the far extreme.

I think what he meant was having one or two grammar mistakes or misspelled words do not nullify a person's viewpoint in a debate.

Lol yes you're right. I did take it to the extreme.

Anyone that judges you based on a few spelling mistakes seriously is looking in the wrong place. It's called an ad hominem, where they start attacking YOU and not the argument. Any debate or discussion should ideally be about the subject, NOT attacking each other.

[strallaalaa]

Well done taking it to the far extreme.

I think what he meant was having one or two grammar mistakes or misspelled words do not nullify a person's viewpoint in a debate.

yeah really, usually there isn't even a red mark in my posts and i still get grammar nazi's. reality is you think you smarter then the rest and are trying to call them out on it like there opinions don't matter. get a life, there is nothing you have that smarts more then any one else. and your post shows this, half those people might not even speak english ..that don't make there points irrelevant less they are rmt lol. besides our youth ..the people they are making these games for are all twitter and facebook and texting, i'm sure they all understand each other when they type like nut jobs.

[Warlock]

The awesome part about this is that as stated by the poll Yoshi-P made 60% of the playerbase never show their faces here 30% sometimes and 10% everyday yet each and every person that complains about every turn this team takes talk like they are speaking out in behalf of thousands of people when its clearly not that way...yet this pesky vocal minority manages to be outnumbered here by people that think their complains are so out of place lol...so that should give you an idea...
my favorite ones are those that claim in the internet there are legions of people hating FFXIV for what Yoshi-P is doing and giving bad press ...this inspired me to go on a Google Marathon looking for this bad press and turns out is completely false...the only legit complain i found was about the waiting for game to come out ..this team is been acknowledge their work prized and excitement charts are at 7.5+ ..so the best thing to do is ignore them

[Shurrikhan]

Should chaff "Repeated threads" be quickly locked and burried? of course, but as we lack the abillity to do so we have to leave that in the hands of the moderators. Many of my threads have been burried by people telling other people to stop speaking their mind it irks me in one sense and entertains me in another that the whole thread itself has been done before many times but is to the OP justified to bring to light a issue we all are allready aware of. It's a no-win battle people will and should continue to post however they see fit unless it breaks the forums user policy, it's not our job to police the forums it's our job to use them and discuss the future of the game in them.

Just makes me wish threads could set their own moderators, who each have the ability to bookmark, organize, and mob up the thread. Just to be fair, things removed can go into a thread archive.

[Shurrikhan]

yeah really, usually there isn't even a red mark in my posts and i still get grammar nazi's. reality is you think you smarter then the rest and are trying to call them out on it like there opinions don't matter. get a life, there is nothing you have that smarts more then any one else. and your post shows this, half those people might not even speak english ..that don't make there points irrelevant less they are rmt lol. besides our youth ..the people they are making these games for are all twitter and facebook and texting, i'm sure they all understand each other when they type like nut jobs.

That's because the grammar marks are green.

Kidding of course. But honestly I am more likely to read a post that's been well written, when both the flow of the idea and the grammar of the text that conveys those ideas are well presented. Consider it a matter of effort, if nothing else.

That said, as long as it isn't garbled, I'm likely to read a long one without great grammar, if only from the assumption that there has to be something gold in that text wall.