On the Properties of Primals.

[Alaltus]

Could it have something to do with how Gridania had planned to do war with the Garlean Empire?
I can't recall them ever elaborating on what exactly they were doing that required a cover up and a presumed lost forever like excuse for a bunch of people. What if the crystalised tonberries were originally Gridanians who offered their own aether or something to that effect to Summon Odin? causing them to change into that tonberry like form and crystalise. Also Bahamut's arrival caused alot of aether to be returned to the land so perhaps that allowed their crystalised forms to return to life? If that was the case they really would have the green wrath =P

[Liham]

It has been confirmed a long time ago (and even more through the a lpha):

Sylphs are summoning Ramuh as Primal.

And it has been leaked a long time ago that Shiva shall be summoned by a new race of giant in the new ice zone. (still vague)

[KaiTBF]

It has been confirmed a long time ago (and even more through the a lpha):

Sylphs are summoning Ramuh as Primal.

And it has been leaked a long time ago that Shiva shall be summoned by a new race of giant in the new ice zone. (still vague)

Sounds like Gigas to me.

I've never been able to see the tonberrys in those rocks, they just look like lumps of amber to me... but anyways, back to the main topic. If I recall correctly when we first heard about Odin Yoshi stated that he was an elder primal, and that he was different from the other primals because he was once human. So, if I had to hazard a guess I'd say that Odin was once a hero or king in the Allagan empire who was turned into a primal to insure that Bahamut could be contained should Dalmund fall and their system (the twelve) fail to re-seal it. I'd say the appearance of Odin and the crystal tower (I'm assuming it's the same crystal tower that served as the tomb for an Allagan king buried in Mor Dhona) after Bahamut is freed points towards a connection between Odin and the Allagan empire at the very least.

Dunno where the humble tonberry would fit into this if I'm right, but they might just be introduced as voidsent.

[Kirol]

Seems to make sense.
Could be that the Tonberries have more to do with Carbuncle than they do Odin, and I'm jumping to massive conclusions here.
In terms of XI lore they did at least, though FFVIII Odin and the Tonberries were found at the same location.
I guess this is one of those wait-and-see kind of things.

[Cedri]

Anyone else think that the beastmen will be super pissed that Free Companies are going to be summoning their deities?

[Kirol]

Or maybe the Twelve will be pissed too. It's Sacreligious after all.

[Duuude007]

Sorrel haven? South of Humblehearth? It has and has always had the big twinkly tree. My LS leveled to 50 there regularly for jobs, back before job quests ever sent us there. Back when the path was very heavy aggro. Even the area past the tree was an empty dead end except for lots of 90+ qiqirn.

I think youre talking about the ruins at last hold north of Treespeak, guarded by high end drakes, ixali,raptors, efts and hogs. And a smattering of Malboro at the ruins once there.

[Pandemonium]

I'm going to setup a market stall selling Tonberry plushies.

[Kirol]

Yeah, I didn't check the names... Looks like I got 'em mixed up. I was thinking of Lasthold. It's just north of there - Gelmorra ruins.

[Catapult]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/post/130

... called it.

(Only just read that, my post came before I was aware of this. ^^; )

Careful. Fernehalwes has a sense of humour and could be deliberately trolling us.

On the Odin topic, I'm taking the FFIV style origin of Odin once being human and running with it.
Louisoix becomes Odin. I'm calling it now.