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  1. #191
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    my girlfriend has a crappy laptop and did never apply.
    guess i should check her mail, too.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I'm afraid you didn't get it straight at all. For the longest time since the opening of the application until pretty much the final event, whoever tried to register for the alpha with a lapsed account was bounced with a message that said something like "you don't have an active account, piss off" (I paraphrase).

    Only afterwards application was opened to everyone, without any change in the "active account" clause.

    So no. "active" account doesn't mean what you think it means. It means what it means everywhere else in the industry, which is paying and able to play.
    Hmmm...

    On one side, we have what Square-Enix said on their page.

    On the other side, we have a person who is upset at how "unfair" a lottery system is.

    Sorry bro, but I'm going to still go with what I said before. Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to stay at maximum mad at all times. That's the perfect attitude for someone to have that should be testing a video game to make it the best it can be. Hopefully you're next in line to get an invite, then rant about how bad it is.


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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Abriael you need to let it go. It's gone beyond disappointment to scapegoating and shifting blame to make yourself feel better. Alpha is almost over and you're still screaming bloody murder. Learn some patience and wait for Beta, which will be the better product to play on.
    I'm not sure why should I? My concerns haven't been addressed in any way. The funny part is that if you check every single one of my post, I'm always responding. I never bring it up on my initiative. Someone simply has to fix misinformation when it happens, or at least some of it.

    I'm not exactly sure why I should "let it go", while those that don't miss any chance to antagonize those that have a problem with this issue don't. I mean, I'm sure they'd love it, so they could throw their petty "butthurt" or "u mad" undisturbed, but I still don't see a solid reason to.

    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    On one side, we have what Square-Enix said on their page.
    Only that any number of people tried applying with lapsed accounts when the application was opened, and were bounced telling them that their account wasn't active. I tested it myself with my mule account. But hey feel free to disbelieve it if floats your boat.

    Mind you. Square Enix said absolutely nothing on the issue, which is exactly the problem.

    I'm not upset at how unfair the lottery system is. I just look with a certain amount of contempt to a company that sets a rule for a lottery system, explicitly specifies it, and then doesn't honor it.

    It's simply bad business, and I'd rather SE drop the bad business.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 12-13-2012 at 05:15 AM.

  4. #194
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    Because its' reached beyond the "oh I didn't get in bummer" to an all out ragefest on your part. Nobody has had this enduring anger on here but you, and that's partly the reason why people keep bringing you up. You're like a screaming kid stomping his foot, then covers his ears not wanting to listen to reason because you're not being told what you want to hear.

    I've raised the concerns regarding the possible oversight on SE's part, or the screenshots posted above by Good Sir Doctor Beatbox, but you're too lost in your own anger to pay attention to any of this. You're repeating the same thing over and over and over. Your tantrums certainly aren't going to get any answers from the Devs, especially in a thread where the OP says "you better!"

    It's time to let it go and move on. There's others who didn't get in. You are not the only one.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Because its' reached beyond the "oh I didn't get in bummer" to an all out ragefest on your part. Nobody has had this enduring anger on here but you, and that's partly the reason why people keep bringing you up. You're like a screaming kid stomping his foot, then covers his ears not wanting to listen to reason because you're not being told what you want to hear.

    I've raised the concerns regarding the possible oversight on SE's part, or the screenshots posted above by Good Sir Doctor Beatbox, but you're too lost in your own anger to pay attention to any of this. You're repeating the same thing over and over and over. Your tantrums certainly aren't going to get any answers from the Devs, especially in a thread where the OP says "you better!"

    It's time to let it go and move on. There's others who didn't get in. You are not the only one.
    You're assuming I'm angry, throwing tantrums and all that.

    The thing you're not considering is that one can express criticism (as long as he wants) in an argumented, polite manner without being angry, or throwing tantrums.

    As a matter of fact, I've always argumented my criticism very attentively and calmly, without throwing insults and personal attacks, that, mind you, come rather frequently from those that like to antagonize anyone that has an issue with this (some people think that personal attacks and insults or "u btthurt bro!" are a valid replacement for a solid argument, and mind you, your post skims that very closely as well).

    Misrepresenting someone's contribution to a discussion by applying to him feelings that he simply doesn't display in any real way is not conducive to a good confrontation of ideas.

    Persistent? Hell yes, I am. Why not? people continue to spread misinformation and antagonize those that ask for an explanation and someone needs to address it.

    Angry? Not really. Do quote anything I wrote in which you can objectively see anger or that you can objectively identify with a "tantrum", because being persistent in one's principles isn't the same thing.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 12-13-2012 at 05:27 AM.

  6. #196
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    I'm sorry but you certainly don't come off as anything BUT an angry tantrum-throwing whiner. And I mean that with all due respect.

    I'm all for open discussion and can tolerate a lot of things said, but seriously, your posts saying the same thing over and over and over are everywhere. And you know what happens when someone/something becomes too spammy, right?

    I'm sure the devs have seen your rants. However, your whining isn't going to get them to respond any faster. This thread has been open for days now and other threads have gotten dev responses faster. It's likely they just ignore it altogether simply because of the title.

    I'll say it again: let it go. People have become tired of your antics. Speak your mind, yes. But speak it with tact. Not like a broken record/deadhorse
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    I'm sorry but you certainly don't come off as anything BUT an angry tantrum-throwing whiner. And I mean that with all due respect.
    Again, I'm very curious to see you quote even a single element of what I said that you can objectively identify with anger or with a tantrum.

    Persistence isn't the same thing. I have very solid beliefs and principles, and I'm not afraid to express them, especially when my counterpart does the same with exactly the same frequency (or more).

    I'm all for open discussion and can tolerate a lot of things said, but seriously, your posts saying the same thing over and over and over are everywhere.
    I'm most definitely not the only one. There are plenty that do it, most of which on the other side of the discussion. Considering that those same people are the ones throwing insults and personal attacks around, why exactly are you telling me?

    I'll say it again: let it go. People have become tired of your antics. Speak your mind, yes. But speak it with tact. Not like a broken record/deadhorse
    It's always a good idea to talk for yourself, and not for "people".

    tact and repetition aren't antithetical or anywhere in conflict. As a matter of fact my mind is always spoken with tact. Unfortunately some seem to believe that any form of criticism towards SE (which I normally defend, when warranted, mind you), no matter how well argumented and expressed calmly, is lack of tact.

    if you want to see lack of "tact", i'll redirect you to all those that were very ready and eager to throw the "butthurt" word around, over and over again, and most definitely not only towards me.

    That, I would say, is lack of tact. So why aren't you addressing them again?
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    Last edited by Abriael; 12-13-2012 at 05:39 AM.

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    /slitwrists
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    This is why I had to go and Decorate my ****ing tree.. because this s**t is a Soap Opera.. I hate soaps -.-. ( And I don't really like decorating.. but it was the only thing available to calm down -.-.
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