In-Game Voice chat

[Rau]

Believe it or not, not everyone has a pc/laptop just sitting next to their ps3 ready to connect a headset to it.

Smart phone?

Even if they were to implement a voice chat into the game, very few would use it because everyone who needs it use their own servers where they have better control/quality of who they can hear.

[Firon]

Smart phone?

Even if they were to implement a voice chat into the game, very few would use it because everyone who needs it use their own servers where they have better control/quality of who they can hear.

There are still problems with that as well. SE should have voice chat built in for 2 reasons.

1. it is a standard for ps3 multiplay games.

2. you can't except every ps3 player to have a phone thats gonna sit on mumble for hours people have things called data plans.

[Malakhim]

There are still problems with that as well. SE should have voice chat built in for 2 reasons.

1. it is a standard for ps3 multiplay games.

2. you can't except every ps3 player to have a phone thats gonna sit on mumble for hours people have things called data plans.

The one flaw in this argument is that unlike the 360, the PS3 doesn't come with a headset right out of the box. Personally speaking, I would think that anyone that cares enough to grab a headset for their PS3 would be savvy and/or willing enough to use a smartphone/laptop/desktop/tablet to deal with voice chatting with their MMO guild. Also anecdotal evidence that I've heard(from a few years ago admittedly) has pointed out that the voice chatting on the PS3 isn't that great and people don't really use it as much.

And seriously dude, quit whining about people disagreeing with you. It isn't making your position any more attractive.

[Nayto]

Personally speaking, I would think that anyone that cares enough to grab a headset for their PS3 would be savvy and/or willing enough to use a smartphone/laptop/desktop/tablet to deal with voice chatting with their MMO guild.

Also aside from DC universe, this is probably the only other MMO that comes out on a console. Chances are not many people will be familiar with how guilds runs in the game. Of course hardcore players have vents with their clans from FPS shooters and whatnot(or more likely just flat out switched to PC) but were dealing with a wider casual audience here.

[Malakhim]

Also aside from DC universe, this is probably the only other MMO that comes out on a console. Chances are not many people will be familiar with how guilds runs in the game. Of course hardcore players have vents with their clans from FPS shooters and whatnot(or more likely just flat out switched to PC) but were dealing with a wider casual audience here.

I'll agree that FFXIV 2.0 may be geared towards a more "casual" audience(personally I've always read the devs' comments as alluding to a more playable FFXIV rather than more casual), but even so, how many casual gamers actually own dedicated game consoles nowadays and play anything other than your typical sports or racing games? How many of those even play MMOs? I don't have all the numbers, but I'd wager it isn't as high relatively speaking. Two of my friends who are waiting for the PS3 version to maybe try it out played FFXI on consoles using a seperate Vent server as well, so there's evidence of that.

That being said, I don't think anyone here is saying "no no no fuck PS3 voice chat never in a million years!!" as much as we're saying "well if they never added it or added it much later, it wouldn't be the end of the world as there are enough solutions out there".

[Nayto]

I'll agree that FFXIV 2.0 may be geared towards a more "casual" audience(personally I've always read the devs' comments as alluding to a more playable FFXIV rather than more casual), but even so, how many casual gamers actually own dedicated game consoles nowadays and play anything other than your typical sports or racing games? How many of those even play MMOs? I don't have all the numbers, but I'd wager it isn't as high relatively speaking. Two of my friends who are waiting for the PS3 version to maybe try it out played FFXI on consoles using a seperate Vent server as well, so there's evidence of that.

That being said, I don't think anyone here is saying "no no no fuck PS3 voice chat never in a million years!!" as much as we're saying "well if they never added it or added it much later, it wouldn't be the end of the world as there are enough solutions out there".

I see. I'm just trying to add some support to those who have probably never played an MMO before. I've had friends asked me if there was in-game voicechat, and told them that there most likely isn't any, you'd have to use vent. Some of them raised an eyebrow at what vent was. It's mainly due to that we've grown up on just chatting through whatever in-game voice chat was supported because it was more convenient that way.

We're probably in the minority, but just want to show that some people do look for that convenience.

[Shurrikhan]

The one flaw in this argument is that unlike the 360, the PS3 doesn't come with a headset right out of the box. Personally speaking, I would think that anyone that cares enough to grab a headset for their PS3 would be savvy and/or willing enough to use a smartphone/laptop/desktop/tablet to deal with voice chatting with their MMO guild. Also anecdotal evidence that I've heard(from a few years ago admittedly) has pointed out that the voice chatting on the PS3 isn't that great and people don't really use it as much.

And seriously dude, quit whining about people disagreeing with you. It isn't making your position any more attractive.

I will hereby whine about the whining about the whining. The prior-mentioned whining seems more significant and base-less than the latter.

Honestly, I can see why SE wouldn't have surrounding speech, (voices automatically used surrounding the character) but I don't see why (if their response was actually referring to this) there wouldn't at least be party or linkshell (or linkshell subgroup [social party]) speech. Players are already categorized by their copy versions, be it JP or NA or EU, etc. I don't see why the same concept can't be applied to listening filters. If anything, that's a pretty small part of the customization one would want in a MMORPG, and if all those items of customization could be made, I'd honestly like to see a PC copy too... preferably one integratable with third-party streams...

[finiteHP]

I wouldn't mind if they implement voice chat as long as I'm not forced to use it. I have more bad experiences with voice chat than good ones.

[Rau]

There are still problems with that as well. SE should have voice chat built in for 2 reasons.

1. it is a standard for ps3 multiplay games.

2. you can't except every ps3 player to have a phone thats gonna sit on mumble for hours people have things called data plans.

1. Dark Souls and Demon Souls don't have voice chat, and they have amazing (and unique) multiplayer. It can't really be called a standard when you have to buy an extra peripheral to use it.
2. Wifi.

Otherwise, guess who's not using voice chat?


Seriously, my point still stands. Even if it were implemented, barely anyone would use it simply because there is already a better alternative in place. They don't even NEED voice chat. I know several of people who participate in endgame events without mics.

[Firon]

This thread shows why a lot of console players hate pc players.