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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Community building, not bound by quests telling you where to go, filter out terrible players, all sorts of stuff.
    Never a huge fan of it myself, but I can recognize the appeal. It's for people who prefer a more gradual experience. A more mellow take on progression because they feel more satisfied when reaching a new tier for their patience and commitment.
    You can build a community by making fun and easily accessible group content (this is what the content finder is), and not by forcing people to do unashamedly naked grinds by making it the only viable option or by far the best option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    You can build a community by making fun and easily accessible group content (this is what the content finder is), and not by forcing people to do unashamedly naked grinds by making it the only viable option or by far the best option.
    SE themselves stated Quest Chaining is the Primary option for level progression. Do you know what primary means? They also said monster grinding is inefficient for leveling, so yeah, giving options while taking away an option. So you have options..but you're only hurting yourself by doing other options.

    Funny how it's acceptable and perfectly ok for SE to take away options because you dislike that style of progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    And people will have options. As Yukikaze pointed out above, there are more ways to level than just questing. Side-quests won't, and certainly can't, be the only way to level. What if you finish all the quests and still have classes to level? Need other ways to level, which we will have.
    SE already touched on this, they said there will be more than enough repetable quests to sustain your classes for most of your leveling career as well as there being a mid-level leveling dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    SE themselves stated Quest Chaining is the Primary option for level progression. Do you know what primary means? They also said monster grinding is inefficient for leveling, so yeah, giving options while taking away an option. So you have options..but you're only hurting yourself by doing other options.

    Funny how it's acceptable and perfectly ok for SE to take away options because you dislike that style of progression.
    Yes, I realize and know that. I was talking about the people who want grinding to be the primary form of leveling. Bear with me here, but someone literally said this:

    "1) Group based xp chaining on hardermobs in the world should give really good xp.
    2) Solo questing should progress you at a decent rate.
    3) Fate should progress you at a decent rate
    4) Dungeons should progres at a decent rate."

    I know reading more than a sentence or two is hard for you, but you can kind of get the context of what I'm talking about here based on the fact that people are asking for grinding to be the best option and are s**tting on all other forms of leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    SE themselves stated Quest Chaining is the Primary option for level progression. Do you know what primary means? They also said monster grinding is inefficient for leveling, so yeah, giving options while taking away an option. So you have options..but you're only hurting yourself by doing other options.
    Do you have an link? I'm sure the word was content

    Y: There are lots of contents to choose from so we have it set where the obtainable EXP isn’t good just by doing one. For those who want to gain EXP efficiently I think it’s best to do different stuff equally.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post789751
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    Last edited by Felis; 12-07-2012 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Do you have an link? I'm sure the word was content
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post914239

    Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
    * Level progression is primarily quest-based.
    Quests are content though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Quests are content though.
    Primarily: adverb

    1. ONLY METHOD EVER

    The best way to get EXP in 1.0 was party mob spam, but leves were still a close second, and they were solo. This doesn't mean the only method of level progression is quests, it's just the most efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Primarily: adverb

    1. ONLY METHOD EVER

    The best way to get EXP in 1.0 was party mob spam, but leves were still a close second, and they were solo. This doesn't mean the only method of level progression is quests, it's just the most efficient.
    ....No shit? SE has said monster grinding is inefficient, which means that option is available but it won't progress you. SE has said quest leveling is the primary option, which means it's the best option because that's the system of leveling they're going with.

    No one said it was the only option lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    ....No shit? SE has said monster grinding is inefficient, which means that option is available but it won't progress you. SE has said quest leveling is the primary option, which means it's the best option because that's the system of leveling they're going with.

    No one said it was the only option lol.
    Stop acting like it's a crutch for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Primarily: adverb

    1. ONLY METHOD EVER

    The best way to get EXP in 1.0 was party mob spam, but leves were still a close second, and they were solo. This doesn't mean the only method of level progression is quests, it's just the most efficient.
    All methods of getting exp should be balance and shouldnt be more efficient than the other. This gives the players freedom to play how they wish to play.
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    Last edited by Maxthunder; 12-07-2012 at 07:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post914239
    Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
    * Level progression is primarily quest-based.


    Quests are content though.
    Yes, but do he mean the Level progression in the alpha or in the finished product?
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