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    Reika's Avatar
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Theres 3 paths an mmo can take for combat level progression: Quests, Monster grind, or combination. You cant jump up and down in one spot to gain EXP. Just drop the cookie-cutter junk and let it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Theres 3 paths an mmo can take for combat level progression: Quests, Monster grind, or combination. You cant jump up and down in one spot to gain EXP. Just drop the cookie-cutter junk and let it go.
    Exactly. Even Guild Wars 2's highly touted dynamic event system ended up breaking down into being the same 5 or so events over and over again, just presented slightly different. Attack this, defend this, find this, Group event kill this and maybe one or two actual unique ones.

    It's monster grind with context, extra rewards and a little more monster variety thrown in. That's all kill side-quests are. While you're not outright forced to read the text, those who will will be given context and motivation. Those who don't read them will come on here and complain about mindless kill quests or get on with their lives and keep playing.
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    Ohnoes! A couple of level 15-ish quests in an alpha build of a game don't require a masters degree in rocket science! This is a tragedy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisuna View Post
    Ohnoes! A couple of level 15-ish quests in an alpha build of a game don't require a masters degree in rocket science! This is a tragedy!
    Worse
    The first quest in the video was lv4, the second lv10

    Everyone know in lv 4 quests there should be some mini NM where you need 3 party members to kill (if you are on lv 4) ^^
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    Demitra Omnis
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    I know people get tired of hearing this, and its not much of excuse for many situations( although for this situation i think its fine) THIS IS ONLY ALPHA!

    F.A.T.E system has not been implemented, you are in the shroud, and for god sakes its levels 1-20. I'm sure playing through the game will be a blast, combat looks active and fun as hell. If you want something like FFXI that exists! go play it. If you want F2P like GW2 it too does exist, go play it!

    Can't wait till this game finally comes out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
    We hope you enjoy our fifth installment in the Alpha First Look video series, in which we witness our heroes undertaking quests and engaging in battle.

    The Duty List allows players to complete a quest from start to finish without needing to refer to the journal, as quest objectives and destinations can be easily confirmed through this new feature. Combat is also improved to be more intense and varied—weaponskills can be used to initiate battle, and spells can be cast from further away.

    <center><object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_N4G854ANo0?version=3&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_N4G854ANo0?version=3&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></center>

    * The battles in this video involve low level enemies. Targeting and actions are demonstrated with the mouse instead of keyboard for greater clarity.

    * Level progression is primarily quest-based.

    * The battle system is currently undergoing significant revision, including changes to all damage algorithms and the claim system.
    Oh no...

    no...

    NO...

    NO!

    For the sake of the twelve and all that should be Holy Role Playing! "Holy Fishing Pole Batman!!! This shit look like the same Guild Leve Grinding system dressed in quest clothing!

    Before the ALPHA is done, fix this... Before it gets out of hand. Also, LAST THING I want to do i read a bunch of pointless dialog for a little quest(which should be straight forward and to the point in gaining fame,ONLY).

    If anything, create a campaign system like FFxi's WotG expansion...! Or just focus on the plot and story content so we can progress and exp at the same time.

    FF1: "My daughter, the princess was kidnapped, please save her from the evil Gardland. He's hiding in the castle to the north!"

    kill monsters to get there, got exp
    killed Gardland, saved the princess, got exp
    the King rewards you with treasure, exp
    the Princess give you a kiss(mmm, good exp) and a KI


    ...done, NEXT!

    more progression, can I have it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post


    This never gets old.
    ROFL, love the art work and I do soooooo agree! ^^*
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    But they made it so we dont have to pull up wiki anymore! total easy mode.
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    Punainen Drak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    But they made it so we dont have to pull up wiki anymore! total easy mode.
    Because using wiki isn't easy mode? Inconvenient =/= challenging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Because using wiki isn't easy mode? Inconvenient =/= challenging.
    It's also called sarcasm.
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  10. 12-07-2012 12:58 AM
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    Someone beat me to it.

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