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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talshara_Blade View Post
    omg i so agree. I don't know how anyone ever figured out how to do anything in FFXI without looking at wiki or something. Vague is an understatement lol. "Did this guy just give me a quest? what the what?! what the hell does that mean???"
    Exactly, if the game doesn't isn't "hand-holding", just pull up a "hand-holding" wiki. People are so.....they don't know what they want.
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  2. #32
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    But they made it so we dont have to pull up wiki anymore! total easy mode.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykotsu View Post
    Exactly, if the game doesn't isn't "hand-holding", just pull up a "hand-holding" wiki. People are so.....they don't know what they want.
    I want gameplay and events sort of like GW2 Raids and instances like WoW, world and character from the FF universe, and challenge so my teammates and i can have epic battles and feel like we accomplished something so far everything on my checklist seems to follow through, only thing im still waiting on is challenge... i dont think Yoshi-p will lemme down on that though.
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  4. #34
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    OMG, that battle music! <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    But they made it so we dont have to pull up wiki anymore! total easy mode.
    Because using wiki isn't easy mode? Inconvenient =/= challenging.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflonpan View Post
    Dont think I have come across an mmo which didnt have cookie cutter level progression quests, if you have please post.
    Ffxi had good quest system, yeah i know this isnt xi-2 but at least i prefer by far having to read a quest and figure out wheres the spot and wich mobs i have to take care of, instead of this wow cloned quests, i prefer real time events as level progresion, like GW2, i hated all those quest that i had to do in WoW like killing 5 cows for exp,

    i think is a bit late for them to change this system, but seriously sometimes getting a game to close to the standars might prevent it to shine by its own, i came back a month ago to XI after 5 years, it changed a lot on how much exp you can do in 1 hour and im glad to say the hard time i been having completing my nation missions trying not to read too much on wiki, on level im high level now but i must say that i might do just 2 or 3 things per night, but everything that i accomplish feels a lot rewarding, imo MMO's should be games for the long run, so whats the problem of taking the time to do your stuff, i think thats the main issue with new MMO's btw the population is still average for an old game, good games die hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Because using wiki isn't easy mode? Inconvenient =/= challenging.
    It's also called sarcasm.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobalito View Post
    I want gameplay and events sort of like GW2 Raids and instances like WoW, world and character from the FF universe, and challenge so my teammates and i can have epic battles and feel like we accomplished something so far everything on my checklist seems to follow through, only thing im still waiting on is challenge... i dont think Yoshi-p will lemme down on that though.
    That's what I want too bro and with the FATE system, I think that is exactly what we're gonna get though.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    But they made it so we dont have to pull up wiki anymore! total easy mode.
    Works for me. I don't want to have to use anything that didn't come with the game as far as info resources or addons. Sometimes I like to read the details of the quests, but sometimes I don't, occasionally the NPCs just babble on for too long. Cutscenes really get me more involved ....and then I end up doing quests with people that want me to skip CS just to get to the god damn fight or whatever and that makes me want to kick puppies. lol It's a lose/lose situation no matter what they do for quests.
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    Less Reality makes for better Fantasy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by elreed View Post
    Ffxi had good quest system, yeah i know this isnt xi-2 but at least i prefer by far having to read a quest and figure out wheres the spot and wich mobs i have to take care of, instead of this wow cloned quests, i prefer real time events as level progresion, like GW2, i hated all those quest that i had to do in WoW like killing 5 cows for exp,
    Not really defending the quest style shown in this video per se, but NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO.

    The quests in FFXI were stupid, vague, and impossible to do without a guide, but the most unforgivable sin of all, they were all so unrewarding it wasn't even worth it. Some of them, sure, you got neat things like shortcuts to your mog house, and other things like that, but the vast majority of the quests are the ones I skipped either because I couldn't get a group together to help me do them, or because the reward was so head-scratchingly stupid that I wondered why anyone bothered to program it.
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