[Dev] Overtaxation of PC Hardware

[Sinzfeldt]

What he said

Probably the best post in this thread.

[Kazahashi]

By the way FFXIV performs, you'd think it'd be using SSAO with fully dynamic shadows, multiple lightpoints, insane draw distance without LOD and even tessellation.

But wait, it isn't. It's just a console port made by a developer who has never developed a real PC game.

Did I mention Ambient Occlusion is still bugged?


It's using a badly coded file architecture system (147,000+ files, disrupts NTFS filesystem, causes 300MB+ storage space waste, can cause massive hitching/stuttering even if defragmented and also very long load times. What's the way to resolve this.. oh, I dunno, waste money on an SSD or, you know, use a bunch of large pack files like any other reputable game company does with their games)

It's optimized for consoles, meaning CPU power means as much as GPU power, if not more. Most things are CPU oriented. If I disable 2 cores of my Phenom 940, the game's audio starts acting up badly and my framerate drops by nearly 50%. If I disable just 1 core, the game performs almost as good as it can, no real audio problems and FPS is down at most 15%.

If I upgrade to say, Sandy Bridge, I suddenly have absolutely no problems and get 60 FPS at all times unless I'm around 20 other people. Can't say I've seen my FPS drop below 45 with nearly maxed out settings (1920x1200, 4xAA, No AO/DOF, everything else maxed except general drawing (8))

Glad I upgraded; but it wasn't worth it.

By comparison; Crysis 2 ran at 60FPS completely maxed out on my Phenom 940. I'm sure with SB the original will act the same way too.

2x GTX 460's for reference.

I'd link to my forum thread where I detailed every flaw I saw with FFXIV, but my webhost doesn't like me anymore.

Right on all counts, and that's the point I've been trying to make. The game is a console MMO, was built to BE a console MMO first and foremost, and yet I can't run it as good as other console ports on a PC....which again, makes not a damn bit of sense, whatsoever. With the way it runs, you'd think that the PS3 is leaps and bounds ahead of PC's....which I think we all know just isn't the case.

[Feldt]

Hey everyone,

What everyone's saying about FFXIV currently being a large burden on the PC is something we've been seeing on our end as well. We brought this up with the development team and hope to have a comment from them soon.

Yes, Client optimization please! especially for dual core cpu since the game is poorly optimized on those... (if you have 4 cores you won't see it that much as of 2 cores)... this game overally CAN have more than 50% (i would even said 80%) of lower system requirements if it was properly optimized... (it's based on little -> big reaserch I've done)

btw. with current state of FFXIV optimization i call it one big Play Station 3 Emulator ^.^

PS: Also from the annyoing things I've noticed (there are large number of them on optimization side) but the one that almost everyone can noticed, is that when your on empty area without players, the game is smooth like baby arse... but when you turn the camera into the direction of camp (even if players are far) it starts to drop down... and when you come in contact with other players... - they will slow you down... also the servers as a whole can slow down how the game runs on your PC and manage to drop FPS...

PS2: That was as a quick note, I'm to tired to write all the essey about my reaserch on client, and what causes the slowdowns etc.
PS3: post might have mistakes in words -> I'm sleepy.

[CeeKay]

Here is what I got to offer. http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/a...nks/ff14-2.jpg

Gpu temp around 70c (stock temp is around 40-50 I think) with Gpu speed around 60% (stock 40%)
Core temps all around 40-50c Never saw them reach mid 60's, not even sure if they hit 60 before.

My Basic info
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i7930 quad core 2.8ghz
6gb
gtx 260
750 watt supply

Before I updated the drivers for my video card I was getting those gpu temps with my gpu fan on 70%.

Edit: Oh yeah all those programs you see on the start menu is what I have open. (I don't always have this many things open, but close to that)

Oh yeah forgot to add.
I'm running the game with everything on standard settings. Except for one option which I have been messing with just as of late. Its the Anti Alis setting, I think its called that. >_< Its at 4x right now.

[MonsieurVerde]

PS: Also from the annyoing things I've noticed (there are large number of them on optimization side) but the one that almost everyone can noticed, is that when your on empty area without players, the game is smooth like baby arse... but when you turn the camera into the direction of camp (even if players are far) it starts to drop down... and when you come in contact with other players... - they will slow you down... also the servers as a whole can slow down how the game runs on your PC and manage to drop FPS...
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This is because the game has to load everything up. Lowering General Drawing, Shadows, Ambient Occlusion and AA can help as can increasing your Memory Speed or getting an SSD/Faster HDD.

The majority of games that load as you play also do this.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

(insert what he said here too)

He's got many points.

And I'm finally home to test the OP's concern. It is definitely valid in regards to two of my configurations, both involving a 285 GTX.

Lowered all settings including resolution and in-game settings except Physics (but in Windowed mode). From 44 degrees C, in-game I'm at 70 degrees C in 10 min.

Slid the General Drawing Settings alone to readable text, reached 84 degrees C in 10 min. Fan crept up 3%.

It's fairly cold outside, but as it get's warmer, I worry what will happen to this poor little beast.

But yes, now that I think about it, SE doesn't develop for the PC, they port console titles to the PC.

NVidia sandwiches running hot.

[MonsieurVerde]

He's got many points.

And I'm finally home to test the OP's concern. It is definitely valid in regards to two of my configurations, both involving a 285 GTX.

Lowered all settings including resolution and in-game settings except Physics (but in Windowed mode). From 44 degrees C, in-game I'm at 70 degrees C in 10 min.

Slid the General Drawing Settings alone to readable text, reached 84 degrees C in 10 min. Fan crept up 3%.

It's fairly cold outside, but as it get's warmer, I worry what will happen to this poor little beast.

But yes, now that I think about it, SE doesn't develop for the PC, they port console titles to the PC.

NVidia sandwiches running hot.

Ever think about investing in a better cooler? >_>

[Elkwood]

Ever think about investing in a better cooler? >_>

The problem is that should not be the solution, stop advising ppl to drop 70 USD into a cooler for every piece of hardware, ESPECIALLY after SE admitted the game is the issue

[Araan]

clean up the graphics, even scale some of the detail down. FFXI still looks great so i dont see the insane need to make everything look so much more detailed

[Sinzfeldt]

Ever think about investing in a better cooler? >_>

Coolers aren't the miracle fix you keep claiming them to be, the problem is the engine not our coolers.