[Dev] Overtaxation of PC Hardware

[Rydin]

I really wish this old 30->60 FPS jump misinfo would die.

It's VERY easy to tell the difference between 30fps and 60 fps. I can tell when WoW dips below 60 easily, even if it's only to the 40's. 60+ starts getting harder to tell, but you usually can still tell until about 75-90.

Play a game at 60fps and then go log into XI which is capped at 29.9 (or somewhere around there). It is VERY noticeable. It's the difference of playing in the open field at 50+ FPS in XIV and then walking into a city.

Whole thing depends....
First, there is a difference between average frame rate and max frame rate......
avg 30 frames is playable for the most part while max 30 frames starts to be unplayable...
Also, have you done any double blind tests (that's funny) for frame rates?
I am a songwriter/producer...

Once there was this audio engineer.... One of the best in the industry.....
He was mixing a song form a major artist. He applied EQ to a guitar and started cutting mids and boosting the highs until it started to sit better and sound better in the mix.... until his assistant informed him that the EQ he was adjusting was actually on a track that was muted, so nothing was changing at all

My point is, when the mind knows something has been changed... the mind sees changes, even when there are none at all...
I don't think you could pick out the difference between 50-60 FPS and 70-80fps.... at least not with consistency....
My guess is, over a bunch of tests... you'd be 50% correct.... because they'd be just guesses...
Unless you're getting screen tearing from a 60Hz monitor and no triple buffering
99.9% of screens only refresh 60 times a second anyway

[DAOWAce]

Whole thing depends....
Also, have you done any double blind tests (that's funny) for frame rates?

I don't think you could pick out the difference between 50-60 FPS and 70-80fps.... at least not with consistency....
My guess is, over a bunch of tests... you'd be 50% correct.... because they'd be just guesses...
Unless you're getting screen tearing from a 60Hz monitor and no triple buffering
99.9% of screens only refresh 60 times a second anyway

Even on my 2004 LCD I can tell the difference between 45 and 60 FPS without having an FPS counter up. Above 60 FPS and it's pretty much impossible, on 60Hz LCDs at least.

If I hook up my CRT and throw it at 100Hz I could probably see differences between 60-80 FPS, but I may need a counter for that, who knows.

For games, I haven't even played SW:The Force Unleashed because it's locked to 30 FPS and the game is so incredibly sluggish it really irritates me.

As for FFXI, I was set on going back due to nostalgia since I finally re-purchased the game with all the expansions; I was just waiting for the time to do so.. until I remembered it's locked to 30 FPS (and the servers were still in Japan), so that killed my will to go back.

I cannot play a game below 45 FPS, I just can't. (although saying that, I played Crysis on an AGP system with an average framerate of 25. Crysis was good at masking problems with low framerates.)

[Zephir]

If you have a costant 45 fps you can play..ploblem is 60-->45/40 drop that probably you (not all people) are able to see.

[Alancode]

I'm running 2GTX 570's and I just played the game at max settings, it was fine out in the world, went to LL and it went from 60 to 20 from 60 to 20, noticed my lights in my room flickering and then looked at my GPU's, both were at 99% usage and 99 degrees. Wtf?

[Rydin]

I'm running 2GTX 570's and I just played the game at max settings, it was fine out in the world, went to LL and it went from 60 to 20 from 60 to 20, noticed my lights in my room flickering and then looked at my GPU's, both were at 99% usage and 99 degrees. Wtf?

Turn your general draw quality to 8....
And your lights are flickering because your dual 570's draw more power than Neverland Ranch

[SilvertearRen]

I'm running 2GTX 570's and I just played the game at max settings, it was fine out in the world, went to LL and it went from 60 to 20 from 60 to 20, noticed my lights in my room flickering and then looked at my GPU's, both were at 99% usage and 99 degrees. Wtf?

I have the same problem, but with a SINGLE ATI video card. My room lights flicker when it runs XIV.

Seriously, Square Enix I am holding you financially responsible for 10% of my electricity bill if this keeps up!