[Dev] Overtaxation of PC Hardware

[Ilean]

FFXI aged fairly well and it didn't have DX11 >_> I doubt this game will look dated in three years...until the next line of consoles comes out.

Consoles? Pfft. MMORPGs are all about PC.

Anyway, XI may not be WoW-ugly but if you compare it with PC games from the year it was released it already looked like crap. Just look at the water effects, plain low res texture layers? that was dated the day it came out.

Oh well, I guess if you don't like the idea of the graphics really scaling up with the hardware there's nothing to discuss. Just keep in mind that in 2 years a midrange CPU/GPU will be running FFXIV like it's nothing, and unless they prepare the engine to support DX11 advanced features our super GPUs of the future will be idling unable to make the game look better.

Hell, I wish my knees stopped popping through my haubergeon but that's too much for the current physics engine. Meanwhile my GPU is sitting there at 55% usage, when it could be doing a incredibly more efficient and powerful directCompute physics engine.

[Peregrine]

Consoles? Pfft. MMORPGs are all about PC.

Anyway, XI may not be WoW-ugly but if you compare it with PC games from the year it was released it already looked like crap. Just look at the water effects, plain low res texture layers? that was dated the day it came out.

Oh well, I guess if you don't like the idea of the graphics really scaling up with the hardware there's nothing to discuss. Just keep in mind that in 2 years a midrange CPU/GPU will be running FFXIV like it's nothing, and unless they prepare the engine to support DX11 advanced features our super GPUs of the future will be idling unable to make the game look better.

Hell, I wish my knees stopped popping through my haubergeon but that's too much for the current physics engine. Meanwhile my GPU is sitting there at 55% usage, when it could be doing a incredibly more efficient and powerful directCompute physics engine.

Download the FFXI benchmark. I doubt any generation of computer will run this like it's nothing.

[Kazahashi]

My comp is i7-950, 8Gb, geforce gtx480-1,5 Gb: the game was fairly playable on highest settings some time before March, but after that I see terrible fps drop in an area where many npcs are staying, also the picture tears off the screen. Needless to say that i have updated drivers. So, the game changed for the worse!! Dev team must remedy the defects asap.

You aren't the only one....game runs like ass compared to what it used to.

[DoctorMog]

A big +1 from me.

Optimize please SE!

[JAH]

Win7 has an XP mode. Really no reason to be on XP. If you like XP so much, you can run XP mode and have full Win7 capabilities and the XP experience you are familiar with.

My system is a quad-core hyper threaded machine with a current video card. CPU usage runs anywhere from 20 to 48%, typically chilling at 30%. I don't consider this game CPU intensive whatsoever. I run a 4.6GHz i7-2600k.

Now my GPU is another story. For whatever reason, the title screen (which is just white with very hard to see smoke effects at the bottom; seriously why?) can ramp the usage up to 40% and change my idle temps of 26C to 35C. In game it's at 60C constant. I'm running everything max except the drawing preferences. I leave those standard (cause for no reason one option up on any of those drops FPS a ton). Without v-sync on I can run 45-150+FPS throughout the game but there is TERRIBLE tearing. It's disgusting the v-tear in this game during cut scenes. With v-sync forced It will typically throttle 35-40FPS during intensive areas and 60FPS for everything else. I use just one GTX 560ti 1GB 950MHz.

Imma go ahead and just assume a ton of debugging is going on so this why we have most lag. But I can't think of any type of debugging that would cause this type of GPU strain.

I never bothered to see how much RAM the game used at start and after extended game play. I'll look now on.

Once the major issues have been dealt with (you know, content and making a game that's fun), I would love for SE to optimize it to run as great as it can run. Cause right now it is very taxing.

[Cascade]

i hope they figure something out soon for this. this is the only game i have so far that can make my fans speed up.
Crysis 2 and portal 2 (both awesome looking games) don't even make my fans spin up after 4+ hours 30 mins in FFXIV and its getting hot

AMD 1090T and AMD Radeon HD 6970

[Micrll]

Core i7 930, 6GB of RAM (soon to be 12GB) dual ATI 5750 graphics cards and this game still really chugs at times

The alt-tabbing not being fixes still drives me CRAZY, as windowed mode only uses one of the graphics cards in crossfire configuration instead.

I admit the game looks good, but the game does not look THAT good. We should not be seeing the performance hits that we are seeing with this engine. I know that its a MMO but when I can run Bioshock 2, Portal 2, and various other games at max settings and XIV I have to keep turning it down to run at any sort of smoothness there is a problem.

If this was by design I am still confused, because a LOT of people tend to play MMO's on more underpowered machines (my friends play other MMO's on their netbooks) I would have hoped that they could have made the engine scale better. I am concerned to see how the PS3 version is actually going to look if it ever comes out (not that I will be getting it) if its struggling on pretty beefy PC's its going to take come crazy optimization to get it up to proper speed.

[AlexiaKidd]

i hope they figure something out soon for this. this is the only game i have so far that can make my fans speed up.
Crysis 2 and portal 2 (both awesome looking games) don't even make my fans spin up after 4+ hours 30 mins in FFXIV and its getting hot

AMD 1090T and AMD Radeon HD 6970

I have the same Processor and my graphics card is a HD 6950 flashed to a HD 6970 now but even on the 6950 Bios it still runs FFXIV at 80°C any other game and it would be easily under 60°C, glad to see I am not the only one having cooling problems. When I play FFXIV I have to set the fan to 50% just to keep it around the 60°C mark which is annoying because it is noticeably loud.

Is it ok to let it run at 80/85°C and keep the fans on auto which is around 35% and is much quieter or should I keep them at 50% to keep it cooler?

[Ilean]

Sadly nope.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr..._or_windows_xp

Will DirectX 11 be available for Windows Vista or Windows XP?

DirectX 11 is built into Windows 7, and it is available as an update for Windows Vista (see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=160189). This includes the Direct3D 11 API, DirectX Graphics Infrastructure (DXGI) 1.1, 10Level9 feature levels, Windows Advanced Rasterization Platform (WARP) 10 software rendering device, Direct2D, DirectWrite, and an update to the Direct3D 10.1 API to support 10Level9 and WARP 10.

For the same reasons noted in the preceding question (Will DirectX 10 be available for Windows XP?), Direct3D 11 and related APIs are not available on Windows XP.

[Lavinia]

I have GTX460-SLi and my temps dont go over 65 degrees and am running 16xQ CSAA everything maxed beside drawing quality and Ambient Occlusion.
And Am running in a 800D with their factory fans nothing more nothing less.
And if you wonder I live in Central America where temps of 20-35 degrees under a roof are normal