[DEV question] Why cant we change Alpha application answers?

[Tiago]

You shouldn't have signed up in the first place if you knew you were getting a new computer in the very near future.

Insert badger-with-sunglasses-deal-with-it image here.

Unless you were doing the app on a machine with absolutely no chance in hell of running the game (because it couldn't run 1.0 FFXIV either) then you really have nothing to worry about. They need people with all different kinds of hardware. telling them your new better hardware vs your old worse hardware isn't going to affect your chances. And as others have noted, PC specs are just one of the factors.

Well, i registered for alpha in september, and i totally bough the computer in November 23, and it wasnt planned that ahead. When i made the app was to maybe sneak into alpha and see if i could run ARR at all, and if so, whould help testing, finding bugs, stress testing, everything like a normal tester. In Version 1.0 Closed Beta my computer (that old laptop) didnt run the game at all, so i didnt test 1 bit because i had around 3-4 fps..... Which made me not buy the game when it went retail because i knew my system whouldnt run it. But sudenly in July, when i bough the game, my laptop whould run it rpetty good with lower settings.

[Alhanelem]

No telling people they cant change their hardware is ridiculous.

And why do you care so much if you think any hardware is good enough. "I am here to say no, but I really dont think it matters"

Its not about updating to a stronger PC so they give you higher chances - its about being honest and accurate.

Since when have we been able to change our answers on anything SE has ever asked us? Never. expecting it now is expecting too much.

You're bellyaching over nothing. The testers have been chosen, this is the last alpha phase, you're not in it, too bad, No, Hi-it's-the-no-police, deal with it. Normally I'm not here to say no just for the sake of saying no, but since you seem to want to hear it so badly, here you go.

Yes, i've reached a breaking point when it comes to silly, pointless complaints on this forum:

-Grass grass grass
-Why do they jump so much in the videos
-Unpolished animations in a test version
-why cant I change my app answers, after everything is already over

You can now resume your regularly scheduled and normally unjustified hating of me.

[Shougun]

Since when have we been able to change our answers on anything SE has ever asked us? Never. expecting it now is expecting too much.

You're bellyaching over nothing. The testers have been chosen, this is the last alpha phase, you're not in it, too bad, No, Hi-it's-the-no-police, deal with it.

I can see you just want to troll about it.

I'm not saying this for "I could have gotten in if I had different specs thread". This is "SE is being silly - if they want accurate information they need to allow updates"

Your antagonistic attitude is pointless as I'm not saying any of which you are trying to make fun of. Grow up.

[Tiago]

You shouldn't have signed up in the first place if you knew you were getting a new computer in the very near future.

Insert badger-with-sunglasses-deal-with-it image here.

Unless you were doing the app on a machine with absolutely no chance in hell of running the game (because it couldn't run 1.0 FFXIV either) then you really have nothing to worry about. They need people with all different kinds of hardware. telling them your new better hardware vs your old worse hardware isn't going to affect your chances. And as others have noted, PC specs are just one of the factors.

Seriously guys, just sit all your butts down and wait for the beta. It will be a lot more polished and functional then anyway. The alpha has next to no content and a level limit of 20. it's a TEST for a reason.

That's kinda what i wanted to do anyways lol, test my current and old PC on the ARR Alpha!

[Alhanelem]

I can see you just want to troll about it.

I'm not saying this for "I could have gotten in if I had different specs thread". This is "SE is being silly - if they want accurate information they need to allow updates"

Your antagonistic attitude is pointless as I'm not saying any of which you are trying to make fun of. Grow up.

Normally, I don't troll at all, but people accuse me of being "the no police" anyway. It doesn't really matter what I say, if I give an opinion, someone has to come out and say "NO POLICE!" so, yes, I am upset and understandably so. I didn't want to troll about anything, this conversation is purely because you chose to make insults at me. Next time, don't pick a fight.

[Shougun]

Normally, I don't troll at all, but people accuse me of being "the no police" anyway. It doesn't really matter what I say, if I give an opinion, someone has to come out and say "NO POLICE!" so, yes, I am upset and understandably so. I didn't want to troll about anything, this conversation is purely because you chose to make insults at me.

I didnt make insults at you - unless you consider calling out your (what I think was) purposefully trolling 'badger.jpg' 'hi-police' remarks. Maybe you intended them as funny (but I didnt think they were funny).

I am tired of people who say no for no reason other then "Some other thread hurt my feelings". Maybe that's not exactly you, but these threads are for discussion and people who ruin discussions with pointless side debates like "which programming language they used" or "I dont like you bumped this thread even though it pertains to the game still" annoy me.

So perhaps we are both grated old men lol


It is, I agree, late to be changing specs now. But for future tests SE should do well to allow updates - as it wont stop any of the cheaters and it will only make their tests more accurate.

[Wynn]

In many game tests that I have participated in, there was the ability to update your application with your computer specs. Or sometimes you would just reupload a new dxdiag file. It really just depends on if, and how much, they are actually interested in your specs or not. In SE's case, all evidence points to it being quite a low priority, if one at all.

In any case, right now they shouldn't be interested in anyone's specs. They are just stress testing at the moment. If your rig can power on and sign into the game without crashing, you meet their requirements at this point.

[Faiyez]

[Tiago]

In many game tests that I have participated in, there was the ability to update your application with your computer specs. Or sometimes you would just reupload a new dxdiag file. It really just depends on if, and how much, they are actually interested in your specs or not. In SE's case, all evidence points to it being quite a low priority, if one at all.

In any case, right now they shouldn't be interested in anyone's specs. They are just stress testing at the moment. If your rig can power on and sign into the game without crashing, you meet their requirements at this point.

Greetings everyone,

I know the alpha tester selection process is a hot topic, and while I cannot disclose the selection process, I do want to pass on some additional details to help you better understand the situation. To ensure a broad scope of testing for the Alpha Test, we did accept users with specific types of machines, setups, connection types, ISPs, geographical locations and other configurations that we need to test that may, or may not, meet every requirement on the application. Alpha is an important first step for testing and we need to make sure we have a wide breadth of users testing it.

We appreciate your understanding, and we look forward to further expanding our selection in the future. In fact, there are a few Yoshida posts that we're working on today that go into further detail on this.

Seems like it did matter lol, we just dont know the specs, but mostly for an alpha, i'm pretty sure its only high-end pcs... Beta is for the older pc's tests to see how well the game runs on older hardware.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post906756

[Shougun]

Seems like it did matter lol, we just dont know the specs, but mostly for an alpha, i'm pretty sure its only high-end pcs... Beta is for the older pc's tests to see how well the game runs on older hardware.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post906756

I've got a couple for friends that got in with pretty -eh- computers. But maybe that is perspective lol

I'm sure that they have some parameter of specs they are using but how tight is unknown. Wynn may be right that "running it" is good enough. We really dont know and that is the point of why they should allow updates, it will let SE be more accurate and it wont mean anything to us since we cant prove their requirements.