[DEV question] Why cant we change Alpha application answers?

[Elexia]

If you change your specs overtime you shouldn't be able to change your application because if that's the case there would be a guaranteed invite criteria and everyone would just do that, even if they don't have the specs.

It doesn't help or hurt your chances, SE just picks at random from a certain pool they want tested.

[Shougun]

If you change your specs overtime you shouldn't be able to change your application because if that's the case there would be a guaranteed invite criteria and everyone would just do that, even if they don't have the specs.

It doesn't help or hurt your chances, SE just picks at random from a certain pool they want tested.

You can intercept the data sent from program to the web browser I guess but most people wont know how to 'fake' system specs. And its important you can update your specs because perhaps SE wanted your old specs but you dont have them anymore because they are silly and dont let you update.

For some reason people are thinking that the winning combination is known. It is not known. There is no "rigging" of your answers, specially if most of it is hardware and IP related RNG.

[Wolfie]

Your web browser is not going to have any important OS level and hardware level details. That's why they have to ask on the applications.

[Shougun]

Your web browser is not going to have any important OS level and hardware level details. That's why they have to ask on the applications.

I meant unless I forgot they use a web app to check all the computer data. You can intercept that data if you really wanted and knew how. But most wont, and even if you intercepted the data you wont know if you changed it to something SE wanted or not.

Answer: Because if you later decide that different answers would have been more favorable, it's not fair to other people who answered the questions honestly?

But which is more favorable? You dont know - changing your app doesnt make it known if you have a better chance or not.

[Alhanelem]

But which is more favorable? You dont know - changing your app doesnt make it known if you have a better chance or not.[/QUOTE]

That's right, but it also doesn't stop people from thinking different answers would have been better. There's no point in changing your app after the fact because you don't know that your answers are what kept you from getting in or got you in. Most likely they simply took a broad sample of those that were close to what they wanted, and randomly selected from those. It's not like having the "optimal" app would have guaranteed your acceptance.

No webapp can check your OS and hardware details. You need ActiveX or Java for that, in order to run the checks locally on the client. Web browsers haven't been able to access or send those kinds of details for decades.

what website today *doesn't* use one of these things on its pages? JavaScript alone can do it, not just Java program.

[Shougun]

That's right, but it also doesn't stop people from thinking different answers would have been better. There's no point in changing your app after the fact because you don't know that your answers are what kept you from getting in or got you in. Most likely they simply took a broad sample of those that were close to what they wanted, and randomly selected from those. It's not like having the "optimal" app would have guaranteed your acceptance.

But there is plenty of reason to update. You change your computer you dont have that old system anymore - you are lying now on your application to SE.

If se wanted your system specs for a test and you dont have them anymore that is bad on SE. It is better they let you update. You can try to 'lie' but you could have lied in the first place, and no one knows what the winning combination is - so attempting to lie is a waste of time.

Updating your app is more honest then not.

[Alhanelem]

Hello.
I'm just asking that, because i entirely bough a new PC to be able to run ARR and hopefully enter Alpha to test it out, as i already mentioned last week.
Since i had a really shizzy pc, and since i didnt lie on that current pc specifications (wish i did lie, but we learn with our mistakes...) and the alpha testers are elected also taking into consideration their computer specs, shouldnt we be able to change the current PC specs of our Alpha application anytime? Because i doubt i'll enter the Alpha with the old PC Specs (Core 2 Duo 2.2ghz, 3gb RAM, Windows 7 64b, NVIDIA GeForce 8400m GS (128 dedicated +896 shared, but i did play current XIV version on that pc, but doubtful will even be taken into consideration for an alpha invite with those machine specs that i entered on the alpha application.), so i was thinking and asking if there is or will be any way to change our Alpha application updated, because since September 2012, i'm sure alot of ppl updated computer hardware in order to play ARR smoothy or ppl that had rly old PC's (such as me) bough new pc's or hardware to improove and 'maybe' play the alpha.
Also, i'm not raging or butthurt, because i'm having alot of fun playing another mmo at the moment with some friends, but whould rly like to see and test ARR on this machine but also on my old laptop to see if it'd run good. This post is mostly for those who changed their pc's hardware to maybe be able to update it on the alpha application so they can get a better chance at an invitation, because ppl that applyed like me, totally wont be in alpha and doubtfully in the beta beginnings because they dont meet the requirements hardware~wise...
That's all for now.
Thanks for reading. Please (someone of the DEV team) reply if possible!

Answer: Because if you later decide that different answers would have been more favorable, it's not fair to other people who answered the questions honestly?

[Tiago]

Answer: Because if you later decide that different answers would have been more favorable, it's not fair to other people who answered the questions honestly?

Didnt i mention "Change Hardware specifications of the application"? i'm pretty sure i did just earlier, just didnt on the main post. But on the main post all i talk about is hardware specifications, so i though it was pretty obvious that's the only part i'm talkin about mostly.

[Wolfie]

No webapp can check your OS and hardware details. You need ActiveX or Java for that, in order to run the checks locally on the client. Web browsers haven't been able to access or send those kinds of details for decades.

[Shougun]

No webapp can check your OS and hardware details. You need ActiveX or Java for that, in order to run the checks locally on the client. Web browsers haven't been able to access or send those kinds of details for decades.

W.e you want to call it. You are talking about unimportant syntax to this discussion. A application, from / ran from the web fills in the computer information for you.