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  1. #81
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    Be nice to have addons that give mob weakness, distance ect.

    A DPS meter other then yourself is not productive. THis game (including how it is in alpha) won't work well with a dps meter trying to tally other players (eve nthe best ones is not 100% accurate). What you will end up with is idiots who try to spam damage to be top dog in DPS, and neglect their duties, whipping the party, and missing timing to link special finishers. You will end up making enemies fast.

    Other addons for farming, perhaps, but those are built in and unlock with ability levels.

    Self DPS, maybe, but even that will lead to players not doing tasks. It fien to test out build gear, but limited.

    It will depend on if mods can detect the target name or not (for weakness information). I am curious on what kind of lengths they are going at for this addon system. Simple pieces of information go a long way... Though I really hope that they at least let us add our own interface elements (like a special customized ability bar and such).

    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Cant we just have addons like skyrim?
    To make stuff function better, but not actually altering the gameplay.
    So let people make a "better grass" mod if they want to.
    Would be wild if they let you mod the models XD

    HD FFXIV here I come lol
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralos View Post
    Touche, but your comment didn't bother me like this thread bothers you. I was merely suggesting that if you don't like the topic of the thread, you can ignore it.
    Also, add-ons tend to be a normal aspect of MMO gaming, so it's importance probably weighs more than your disinterest in the topic itself. But that's just my opinion.
    This Topic does not bother me at all, or to say it even more clear.. nothing on the internet bothers me at all. i am currently just bored enough to post on the forums, not more nor less. Well yeah, even if i dont like something, why would i ignore it? Sometimes i wish people on the NA-Forums would actually be that way, then we would have 80% less topics in total, since noone would "whine" anymore.

    To give my opinion about Addons: They are not needed for any kind of MMO. They are maybe something nice for people which actually likes it, or like to code them or w/e reason, but they are not needed in any way or form, to make a MMO successfull.

    If a MMO has to have Addons to be sucessfull, then the Game itself is a fail. I am not denying that certain people "would" like Addons or something similiar, but that does not mean that a MMO in General is in need of it. It is some sort of "Tuning" a Car, while a car MAYBE look better after tuning it, there is also the counterpart where cars look worse after tuning. But after all, the car does not need any tuning/decals or whatever to give the driver a good feeling while driving it.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    Be nice to have addons that give mob weakness, distance ect.
    I would love a weakness finder more as a skill, like in the other FF games.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    This Topic does not bother me at all, or to say it even more clear.. nothing on the internet bothers me at all. i am currently just bored enough to post on the forums, not more nor less. Well yeah, even if i dont like something, why would i ignore it? Sometimes i wish people on the NA-Forums would actually be that way, then we would have 80% less topics in total, since noone would "whine" anymore.

    To give my opinion about Addons: They are not needed for any kind of MMO. They are maybe something nice for people which actually likes it, or like to code them or w/e reason, but they are not needed in any way or form, to make a MMO successfull.

    If a MMO has to have Addons to be sucessfull, then the Game itself is a fail. I am not denying that certain people "would" like Addons or something similiar, but that does not mean that a MMO in General is in need of it. It is some sort of "Tuning" a Car, while a car MAYBE look better after tuning it, there is also the counterpart where cars look worse after tuning. But after all, the car does not need any tuning/decals or whatever to give the driver a good feeling while driving it.
    I agree completely. but add-ons, while unnecessary, are still an aspect of MMOs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Great idea, Ralos!

    I'll pass it along to Yoshi-P personally

  5. #85
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    Entire thread is TL;DR, but here's this.

    FFXI: People got on, and still do get on, for years without needing any sort of add-ons.
    FFXIV: People got on for the entirety of the life of the first version without needing add-ons.

    If you really, really cannot get by without the crutches that add-ons provide, maybe you should play a different game. Maybe a game where all the info is spoon-fed to you.

    Or maybe one that plays itself.
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  6. #86
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    Skill abilities like that wuld be nice. Such as a skill to see mob elements (similar to other FF games and Lost Odyssey).

    They plan on customizable bars, themes, color layouts ect. Which is good, right now it is a default scheme in alpha.

    I don't want the game looking like a WOw addon mess, that works quarky, or just results in a creen of mashable buttons. I prefer a streamline, customizable, flipping system.
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  7. #87
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    Ugh... thanks for reminding me they made this horrible decision..
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralos View Post
    I agree completely. but add-ons, while unnecessary, are still an aspect of MMOs
    No.

    Add-ons are an Aspect of the PC Gaming Community that only wants to half ass play video games and would rather cheat their way through something than actually develop the skills necessary to do it the way the Developers intended.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Though I really hope that they at least let us add our own interface elements (like a special customized ability bar and such).
    From what i've seen, it seems that's about as far as they're going with it. So UI Customization, but not much beyond that.
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  10. #90
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    Many of you need to think outside of the box. Yes, it is very often that add-ons tends to follow the "help me play better" scheme, but it can go way beyond this. There are many things add-ons can help to reduce server processing/lag for the game client.

    EVE Online has been doing add-ons that gives players methods to access game related information, w/o having to have a game client. ARR can have those kinds of add-ons as well. Non-game-client add-ons such as emails, events, LS/FC membership access, are just some of the possibilities.

    jc
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