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  1. #501
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Work...ing... on.. it...

    WAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!


    It would have been nice if SE told everyone what they where looking for though. Like:

    "Hey Everyone,

    We are pleased announce the first wave of Alpha invites! We know everyone is excited to get in but we only have limited seating, rest assured we will increase the pool as time and success goes on.

    The current test group was chosen by putting players into X groups, we dont want you cuz you evil, your computer is hawt, your computer is not, you can play any time all the time, enthusiastic/experienced and or crazy forum posters. We took Y Z groups divided them and then randomly picked from them.

    If you didnt get in there will be many opportunities in the future as we increase the player pool for testing, we hope to get everyone in for beta so please look forward to it!

    " <--- Key point is they say how they chose people so there isn't some kind of magican whipping bunnies out of his ass and everyone is going WUT?!


    Something like that but better written I think could have stopped a lot of "SE is Satan's minion".
    That makes little to no sense because everyone would have the same answers.As for the criteria to get in who knows,but most Alpha/Beta tests try and mix testers by things like what kinda of interent provider say Verizion,Comcast or whatever and things like hardware or location.
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    God FORBID a company who wishes to ALPHA test a product for bugs, crashes and functionality select from a DIVERSE pool of applicants with infinitely different PC builds and specs, your physical locations, as WELL as what ISP you have over just who chose to pay for 1.0 and who didn't.

    It's alpha testing... not a reward for your loyalty. That's what Legacy is for.

    If Player X, and player Y paid the entire time, and Player Z quit, But player X and Y have the SAME general specs, are in the SAME area, have the SAME ISP and the company picks player X, then decides to pick player Z because they are somewhere else, have vastly different specs, a different ISP and will be able to provide different data that they need... it's only logical.

    Don't start raging and think you're more deserving of someone else. Accept the fact that maybe.. just maaaaybe they had ENOUGH people with your exact specs in, and decided to go with someone else who could provide what the need. The SAME with Beta if it is also limited. We are here to provide the needed data.

    *edited- added some extra commentary*
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    Last edited by RoninDarkchild; 11-28-2012 at 02:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    God FORBID a company who wishes to ALPHA test a product for bugs, crashes and functionality select from a DIVERSE pool of applicants with infinitely different PC builds and specs, your location, as WELL as what ISP you have over just who chose to pay for 1.0 and who didn't.

    It's alpha testing... not a reward for your loyalty. That's what Legacy is for.
    Pay attention to that last line, kids. Pay veeeery close attention. Remember it next time you want to go on one of your entitlement rants.
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    If things go to plan more people will be added to alpha starting next week Monday.. 12/3/12 from the letter translated in one of the topics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil924 View Post
    That makes little to no sense because everyone would have the same answers.As for the criteria to get in who knows,but most Alpha/Beta tests try and mix testers by things like what kinda of interent provider say Verizion,Comcast or whatever and things like hardware or location.
    You make little to no sense (:O, now you say your mom makes little to no sense.. lol). Obviously they cant tell you how they chose a testing group without choosing the testing group which means its too late to rig your app. Also they do not have to maintain choosing parameters through each phase. (Or that people already rigged their app so it doesn't matter).

    Not only that but some of the things might just be arbitrary or not fake-able like being in the past Alpha (1.0).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You make little to no sense (:O, now you say your mom makes little to no sense.. lol). Obviously they cant tell you how they chose a testing group without choosing the testing group which means its too late to rig your app. Also they do not have to maintain choosing parameters through each phase. (Or that people already rigged their app so it doesn't matter).

    Not only that but some of the things might just be arbitrary or not fake-able like being in the past Alpha (1.0).
    U should grow up a little(Mom comment) I simply stated we don't how they picked who got in and who didn't,but some of the things i stated have some bearing in other beta tests i've done before.The bottom line is alot of people didn't get invite to the Alpha this time and railing here isn't gonna open any doors for anyone to get in any faster....deal with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Haha! I'm glad!

    I told him my devious plan and he is now hiding under his desk
    LOL..... it is annoying that you can't just say "LOL" but have to meet the minimum number of letters in your comment so this is just space filler. My only comment is "LOL!"
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    I don't why people gets angry of Alpha invites and when they getting it they complain about bugs and error..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil924 View Post
    U should grow up a little(Mom comment) I simply stated we don't how they picked who got in and who didn't,but some of the things i stated have some bearing in other beta tests i've done before.The bottom line is alot of people didn't get invite to the Alpha this time and railing here isn't gonna open any doors for anyone to get in any faster....deal with it!
    You should learn to have a little fun :/

    And you didnt simply state.. you told me I made no sense. Awkward really, since my post was saying SE should make sense as there is no sense available.

    And yes railing against isnt going to do much - they can only handle so many. I'm not suggesting SE open the flood gates to their server so it can crash, I was just suggesting easy ways they could have calmed more of the crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You should learn to have a little fun :/

    And you didnt simply state.. you told me I made no sense. Specially since my post was saying to make sense out of no sense.

    And yes railing isnt going to do much - they can only handle so many. I'm not suggesting SE open the flood gates to their server so it can crash, I was just suggesting easy ways they could have calmed more of the crowd.
    Well, why can't the crowd calm themselves? I mean, why should SE have to hold anyone's hand through the alpha process? I'd like to think that the majority of us here are adults. Surely we all knew that some would be getting into alpha and some would not. I just think that some people here need to put on their big boy pants and deal with it. Besides, there's always beta to look forward to.
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