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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    I'm not whining because i didn't receive the alpha invitation, but a lot of my friend that have quit the game AFTER THE FIRST MONTH FROM THE RELEASE GOT IT! And me (and others of course) supporting the game and paying for the crappy 1.0, didn't receive it.

    Only who had an active FFXIV account was supposed to get the invitation right?

    Now tell me dear SE, for the love of god WHY???

    It was a kind of application site bug? If this was wanted? Just need clarification about this.
    For real? Running a game is not some kind of charity. You and the other 66 people that liked your post need to quit dreamin'. Get your heads out of your asses people. Maybe they wanted to use their limited server space to bring in feedback from OH HELL I DON'T KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT MATTER?

    I don't think you should feel rage. I suggest you look into what made you feel that way and correct it.
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    Honestly... people are complaining and crying about not getting in... Lets take a look...

    Square-Enix's fans have been proven to be unable to say when there is a problem with one of their games, they defend it blindly even if its terrible.

    You all need to realize this is the ALPHA TEST. Its not about playing the game for SE its about making sure everything works fairly well before the BETA test which is more about playing the game to test features. Alpha tests are a lot of stress testing and making sure that they can find out what can cause server crashes to avoid them in the future.

    You won't keep anything from the alpha anyways. It all gets deleted.

    Secondly about complaining about letting people who have QUIT in over people who have played since launch. Some did yes but I know a few people that have played from launch until shutdown and got in so it ISN'T just people that quit.

    So they invited people that have quit quickly.... big deal. All I see is people saying "We should have been important because we're the fans" I'm sorry to break this to you... the LAST thing that will help SE make this a great game is letting fans give all the feedback.

    Think about it from this point of view.. Tanaka disappointed a lot of people when the game was launched, we all know the state it was in. By inviting people that quit early on, not only can they see the changes but they can also give FEEDBACK as to what can help improve the game, something SE fan's aren't really able to do and if you look at the forums, every time someone suggests changes (In both FFXI and FFXIV) half the forum flames them if they say something even somewhat negative, even if its true.

    Lets face it, SE fans praise the developer no matter what, it could be the worst thing in the world and the fanboys would mindlessly praise it. But people who are able to call out crap when they see it will give far better feedback and its them that will help the game grow, not a few fans that just want to play the game.

    I for one am not bothered at all that I didn't get into the alpha. I'm patient and I have other things I can do with my time. Now I would LOVE to get into the alpha that would make my day getting that email. I am a fan after all. I hope for the beta test personally I can test for my PC and my PS3 if needed, its no problem either way.

    I am just waiting patiently for an email. No use complaining about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xikeroth View Post
    Honestly... people are complaining and crying about not getting in... Lets take a look...

    Square-Enix's fans have been proven to be unable to say when there is a problem with one of their games, they defend it blindly even if its terrible.
    You clearly was never in xiv's alpha, beta and release up until this day, your character is a lie and you'd be kidding yourself if you didnt think XIV Fans Complained?

    I'd crap my pants if the ratio for compliment to argument was above 1/10.

    anywho, I get why people are angry, we have all been paying for this game that admittedly is broke and they dont feel the loyality here, they forget that their loyality doesnt help test, lots of different computers and such do help test.

    Loyalty means naff all during testing. It will unlikely get you into anything, you got the $10/month XD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xikeroth View Post
    I for one am not bothered at all that I didn't get into the alpha. I'm patient and I have other things I can do with my time. Now I would LOVE to get into the alpha that would make my day getting that email. I am a fan after all. I hope for the beta test personally I can test for my PC and my PS3 if needed, its no problem either way.
    I was with you, following along, pretty much through your whole post up to this point.

    So, after bashing fans for several paragraphs, calling them blind defenders who will slam anyone who so much as utters one word of criticism at a game... you turn around and declare that you would love an invite, in part, because you're a fan. So, based on the rest of your post, you - by your own say so - shouldn't get an invite.

    Are you being deliberately ironic there, or just mind-bogglingly contradictory?

    And by the by, your generalizations about "fans being unable to give helpful feedback" is completely unfair.

    I consider myself a SE and FFXIV fan, and that's why I would be in there testing. I would be in there providing bug reports and other feedback to help the game improve. Because, as a I fan, I want to see the game be rock solid and ready when it launches.

    Are there people who only want invites so they get to "play the game and see the changes early?". Yep. And I suspect they will be the ones in the alpha/beta forums (assuming they have them again) complaining about "lack of content" and "not enough to do", insisting that SE needs to "open up more of the game so they can progress more", and regarding the game like everything they're seeing is "final" - like they did for 1.0 and in other games' alpha/beta tests. No matter how much you explain what Alpha/Beta is for, to some people, it is and will always be "a free trial".

    However, I also know that there was a number of people who were providing helpful and useful feedback - as fans - in Alpha/Beta for 1.0, and I have no doubt they'd be doing so again.

    So... careful with the generalizations, and use smaller strokes when describing a group of people.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 11-27-2012 at 10:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebard View Post
    Yeah we believe you. You would have made this thread even if you got into alpha right?
    lolsogood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xikeroth View Post
    Honestly... people are complaining and crying about not getting in... Lets take a look...

    Square-Enix's fans have been proven to be unable to say when there is a problem with one of their games, they defend it blindly even if its terrible.
    Hm, nope I think you're thinking of the wrong generation or you're part of the new generation of gamers. Back in my day people gladly told Square and Enix when one of their games sucked even if the game didn't suck.
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    Pretty sure people are lying out of their asses about inactive accounts and 1-2 month subscribers getting into alpha, so they can justify their QQ.

    I know about 40+ people who got into the alpha and they're all legacy members and have been playing for at least 8 months and some since launch.
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    First world problem.
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    Well, in JA forum there is also a hot thread crying about alpha invitation.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/58419

    I don't have much time to translate it, but it contains so much rages that CRep posted twice to request people to calm down. Then Yoshi-P posts at #120 to promise that he will say something about it tonight (JST time).
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    フォーラム右上の開発者投稿、こまめにチェックしよう。

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristina_Farron View Post
    Well, in JA forum there is also a hot thread crying about alpha invitation.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/58419

    I don't have much time to translate it, but it contains so much rages that CRep posted twice to request people to calm down. Then Yoshi-P posts at #120 to promise that he will say something about it tonight (JST time).
    Still they seems more polite than this forums: 14 pages compared to... 47 + at last 4 or 5 other threads.

    We western people look so whiny and entitled compared to them...
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