Thread of dispair

[myerg]

derp thread is derp

[whoopeeragon]

No, that's in the email. It directs you to their forums and to the tester acceptance page where you review all that stuff. I'm not sure I'd be allowed to copy/pasta the invitation email (it aint even my invitation...) but yea, it's in there.

Best to be safe and not do it. >_>

Also...

Quit playing yourself.. its the same game... we supported version 1.0 knowing full well 2.0 was on the horizon for about the past 2 years.. that was the whole point..I guess you just got here (and if that's the case, shouldn't you be downloading the ARR client rite now.. LOL) ...?

I never mentioned any entitlement.. I simply stated the fact that they continue to do a horrible job showing appreciation.. Legacy would be nice if it meant sumthing, but clearly that doesn't even give people early access to the alpha of a game they been playing for the past 2 years.. I get that your satisfied, and that's fine, to each his own.

SE is marketting ARR as a separate game. Thus, as far as operations for alpha and beta and such go, they are different games with no connections between them. Some people eagerly await ARR as well, but they absolutely loathed 1.0. Are you saying that the sign of their 'dedication' is to support a game they hate and loathe, all so they can have a chance for getting early entry into an alpha that tests a series of systems with no attachment to the original game?

For NDA purposes, I'm refusing to comment on the 'downloading alpha client' statement, but I have played pretty much from launch all the way to server shut-down. Nor have I been wasting that time in-game with frivolous activities.

Alpha testing invites should be given no bias - everyone who applied for alpha and met the application's requirements should have equal chances of getting in. The amount of time, the number of relics and quint melds you have should never influence an event which is not even related in the slightest. You are here to TEST alpha, not play it. Testing mechanics and systems entirely different from original XIV, so your experiences will do naught save be as comparison. And in such a testing, acquiring testers with no knowledge of XIV's systems to base it off their OWN expectations, rather than a comparison, is equally as vital, as far as I'm concerned.

No, aside from the entitlement factor, I see no reason as to why current players should have priority to test a game who's systems are entirely different from the original. You may not be satisfied, but there is a limit to what can be constituted as an 'appreciation' reward before it becomes an 'biased' selection. We are getting that in beta, so hold it in.

[Wint]

I think the only argument I can make for those who not only stuck with the game to the end but paid for it is that you know these people will indeed participate in the alpha, instead of those who get in, decide they hate it, and never log in again. Ideally the alpha participants will be on as much as possible to help test whatever they're working on currently.

Personally I don't think being a legacy user should guarantee you a spot even though I am a legacy user, and I can't condone this sense of entitlement that seems to come with it. I supported this game not so that I could have first crack at 2.0, but because I support what Yoshi is doing and want him to be able to see it through. I get the frustration at not being invited to the club (especially since I didn't get invited either :P), but I just can't see why people are so pissed off at not getting in.

[Exn]

Best to be safe and not do it. >_>

Agreed.

Also...

SE is marketting ARR as a separate game. Thus, as far as operations for alpha and beta and such go, they are different games with no connections between them. Some people eagerly await ARR as well, but they absolutely loathed 1.0. Are you saying that the sign of their 'dedication' is to support a game they hate and loathe, all so they can have a chance for getting early entry into an alpha that tests a series of systems with no attachment to the original game?

I can tell that you mean well by the tone of your post, but I stopped here. I couldn't get past this first paragraph because I fundamentally disagree with everything you've said here. They are not marketing them as different games, it has been marketed that ARR 2.0 is the remake of 1.0 since the beginning. If they were marketed as different games we'd still be having a 1.0 to play in the future, but we are not. 1.0 is being(has been) scrapped in place of 2.0, period.

No connections between them??.. Come on, you can't be serious. They are literally porting the character data over from one, to the other. Zones, NPCS, items, etc are all coming directly from the 1.0 client. That, I would think, should be abundantly obvious. Again, I get that you meant well, I'ma just have to disagree.

[neorei]

I know
Caught up in the middle
I cry, just a little
When I think of letting go
Oh no
Gave up on the riddle
I cry, just a little
When I think of letting go

[Rane]

Sad, sad, sad, sad
Why must I be sad?
The rows of dandelions growing all around me
Why must I be sad?

[Gramul]

mmmnope.
Not this time.

[KaiTBF]

Great sadness in my heart.

Well, off to get ice-cream then.

[Illusion]

euro O \ Legacy O \ ce O \ Sticked with the game till the end O

All good I don't mind not getting an invite, and I don't mind about getting one or not, but none active people getting an invite (If true) who left the game long time ago does unfortunately leave a sour taste.

That's just wrong imo and a slap in the face of all the players that deserve a spot.

[Faiyez]

Why'd they delete the other thread?