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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well but at least you could say "i want something in that direction, if you dont like those existing races" i dont think that yoshida wants to introduce an existing race.


    here my poll, which i created long long time ago about different types of races:

    Which-new-races-would-you-like-the-most-for-FFXIV-2.0.?
    Except that he named Viera in the player poll, he is clearly under the impression that western players want Viera as a new race. There is no mention of "rabbit-like" there is only the term Viera being mentioned which is somewhat infuriating as it has become a bandwagon.
    However I digress, people on the whole aren't asking for "something a bit like this" at all they are asking for xyz from other FF games. There is only so much recycling of stuff from previous FF games that people will tolerate before it becomes seen as just SE being lazy.
    Your poll is just more of that unimaginative nonsense, those are not new races they are races from other FF games.
    /bangsheadon desk.
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    gladly they are not. grias are completely kitchy in my opinion (in 3D the most). many western players would just dislike FFXIV because of this devil winged race trust me.
    Well that's interesting because the Succubus, one of the most popular female demons in the west, is not of eastern origins. While they take the form of a human, they also generally are dipicted with wings and a tail given the demon nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well that's interesting because the Succubus, one of the most popular female demons in the west, is not of eastern origins. While they take the form of a human, they also generally are dipicted with wings and a tail given the demon nature.
    yes, but not a playable race! i cant imagine a successfull MMO with a playable succubus race. thats a major difference in my opinion between a monster or to make it a playable race (with red neon wings)
    and to make it wear job equipment like whm robe etc.

    and yes there are going to be succubus monsters in ARR too.. if you dont know it already.

    Succubus Artwork

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    Last edited by Tonkra; 11-26-2012 at 03:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Hell. no.

    Also much like my brother and his girlfriend, my vote if there's any Ivalice inspired races would be Gria.
    Sux for you that's only 3 :P compared to everyone that voted Viera in that poll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    How can you say no to all this?


    all i can see and say is "Playboy Mansion" ...lol hhahahahahahaha
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    Burmecians, burmecians, burmecians...... If he REALLY needs to have a more beast like race, Ronso and/or Guado. Personally, I think burmecians would fit the more beast llike idea as well in addition to being "Viera" like for those of us who want the Viera. Bangaa I feel would go the way of the Rogadyn and you'd only see them in rare occasion or circuses...
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    how about hypello's the dudes that ride the shoopuffs lol ...and add shoopuffs while we are at it into the games story. ftw.

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...llo_driver.jpg

    i want to Ride ze shoopuf!!
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    To keep in mind when considering a new race:

    (Yoshi-P) is also worried about crossing a certain line after which it will become hard to distinguish between PCs and NPCs/Monsters
    A) It can't be too beastmen-like. (so no Qiqirn, Goblins, etc..)

    B) The race has to look like it can reasonably perform as all jobs/classes in the game. (eg. Nu Mou could never pull off WAR or DRG properly)

    C) It must be able to believably run the same speed and jump the same distance as the current races. (eg Could you imagine a Seeq or Qu trying to keep up?)

    D) Finally, the new race must be able to wear all armor that the current races can without major alterations. (eg. Bangaa or Cleyran would require tremendous work due to a redesign of all helmets, leg, and feet gear. )

    Viera is really the best option, but if not that, then it's likely we will get something entirely new. Regardless, the race's physique will definitely be humanoid in appearance - just as the current 5 races are.


    Other viable (existing FF) races:
    Pajal, Lufenian, Lunarian, Ronso, Guado, Clavat, Genome, Dwarves, Helgas, Garif (without the masks), etc.



    My thoughts:
    If they can't get the new player race completed by ARR launch, I'd recommend they scrap the idea altogether. If we don't have access to the race in our Re-roll, then they will be very scarce in the game when they are finally released, which means it likely won't be worth the developers' effort.
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    I think adding another race isn't a bad thing. I would actually like it. My only concern is that i might like it so much but not want to change my character at that point. I doubt they will give us a race change option during every expansion. Since it would have to be added in an expansion this makes me a little less concerned about it compared to other things, since it wouldn't really affect me ... well maybe an alt. In this sense, no matter what race is added it would probably be scarce, since it would sorta be limited to alts and new players/characters ... although, it is(or was) pretty easy to level to 50 and get top rank gear within a week ... so who knows

    When it comes to the choice between something similar to a mammalian race(cows or bunnies(viera)), and something similar to a reptilian race (dragon, bangaa, snake) ... i would probably definately lean more toward the reptilian race.

    To me, Viera would seem so close to miqote. The only differences would be the viera would be taller. Maybe to offset the fact that most races have the male/female similar in size/etc., they could make the male viera huge and have the floppy ears instead. It would work, but again miqote=small attractive females, elezen=tall attractive females, roegadyn=large attractive females ... I read in these posts about the accessory for bunny ears and a fluffy tail being added. That would be a great egg festival event item at some point .. and then everyone could be a viera whenever they want ;p ... it's the bunny ears we want anyway (or at least me xD)

    I think the reptilian model would be the best choice if adding a new race ... and i don't think adding more than one would be necessary. D: ... But when thinking about how to execute it ... i would not want anything like bangaa D: The biggest thing that put me off what people call 'western style' mmo's is the ugliness ... in most cases it just seems like lack of ability to design anything that looks good even though they are trying ^^; ... but sometimes the ugliness is intentional and it just sucks ... i don't want to look at that. I also think that humanoid is best because distinction between us and them is a good thing. When i think about partying together with a group, already roegadyn males look akward, especially in mageware ... having something looking even more out of place would probably cause the same feeling. I think adding a humanoid race with subtle reptilian features (the way miqote have very subtle cat like features) would fit in with the other aspects of this game the best!

    side notes ... More features and choices when creating your character for all races is important, and they are doing that now. yay. ... and i like the idea of the winged/succubus type models, but i'm not sure it would fit the game (and the wings would take up a lot of screen space xD) ... and aside from that there are the insect/fish options ;p (but i'm sure those will be taken up by the sahagin and other beasties, like antican or something XD)

    I am really excited to see how they decide to handle this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    My thoughts:
    If they can't get the new player race completed by ARR launch, I'd recommend they scrap the idea altogether. If we don't have access to the race in our Re-roll, then they will be very scarce in the game when they are finally released, which means it likely won't be worth the developers' effort.
    They've already stated that a new race won't be available until the first major expansion. Apart from adding paid race changes at some point, I feel it's pretty useless too, since this is a game where most people only identify with one character primarily.
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