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    Water Spell for conjurer is back?

    It seems to me when i look at the new video:

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    The skill on the Fourth slot...1rst slot is attack mode, 2nd Stone , 3rd Wind, 4th Water, 5th cure.
    Protes skill looks different, and it cant be regen because its a whm spell (in 1.0.).. but it looks very water alike to me, if you ask me. its more likeley that he put all damage spells together in a row.. and its a low level character, so that i think it is going to be water spell.

    http://youtu.be/asqskpLYwrI (at 3:25)
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    Appears so, however I wouldn't speculate too hard, as I can't even tell if that character is level 1 or level 20 and the HP / MP seem a lot lower than in 1.0 if it's level 20 (As it says near the EXP Bar)

    Although it is roughly the same colour as the cure spell so meh, could be a healing spell, could be water.
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    Well doesnt it have the old "wavy" symbol? i dont have a screenshot of the old water icon anymore.. but i think it was almost the same. i can see waves in there.

    old water icon:
    old cure icon:

    new water and new cure icon:




    but well.. what does it help for... a conjurer does not use his attack spells very often. i still think it would have been better to switch all damage skills all over to Black mage again, so that he can use all elements depending on the enemy. and giving whm/conjurer the traditional astral spells like holy, banish, banishga etc (my opinion). but well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Well doesnt it have the old "wavy" symbol? i dont have a screenshot of the old water icon anymore.. but i think it was almost the same. i can see waves in there.

    old water icon:
    old cure icon:

    new water and new cure icon:




    but well.. what does it help for... a conjurer does not use his attack spells very often. i still think it would have been better to switch all damage skills all over to Black mage again, so that he can use all elements depending on the enemy. and giving whm/conjurer the traditional astral spells like holy, banish, banishga etc (my opinion). but well.
    if your whm aint nuking, he's only doing half his job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    if your whm aint nuking, he's only doing half his job
    oh you are so pro... i want to see you nuking in situations where your group members lose 30%-40% hp each attack .... and you know there are often these situations...

    its no secret that a blm nukes 100% more than a whm.. but well.. maybe it was just you. you have been in the top 3 of your party when it comes to damage dealing and running a parser in the background, eh?..
    and im not talking about moogle whm burn groups..

    im getting to old to read some kind of shit like that. people who want just to play themselve into the foreground "see im so pro"...


    give me a screenshot of your whm leading the damage dealing list in your garuda group or instanced runs.. then you have my respect. but i doubt it hardly. firstly a good whm equips healer and not nuker equipment.. secondly to make any decent damage you should have switched on "sacred prism" (-20% heal , +20% off. damage). and i dont really know anyone who uses that in any instance ..


    thirdly he casts earth from time to time to reduce magic evasion... and for the fourth... i said conjurer did not cast attack spells "very often". stfu with your "pro" post.. really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    oh you are so pro... i want to see you nuking in situations where your group members lose 30%-40% hp each attack .... and you know there are often these situations...

    its no secret that a blm nukes 100% more than a whm.. but well.. maybe it was just you. you have been in the top 3 of your party when it comes to damage dealing and running a parser in the background, eh?..
    and im not talking about moogle whm burn groups..

    im getting to old to read some kind of shit like that. people who want just to play themselve into the foreground "see im so pro"...


    give me a screenshot of your whm leading the damage dealing list in your garuda group or instanced runs.. then you have my respect. but i doubt it hardly. firstly a good whm equips healer and not nuker equipment.. secondly to make any decent damage you should have switched on "sacred prism" (-20% heal , +20% off. damage). and i dont really know anyone who uses that in any instance ..


    thirdly he casts earth from time to time to reduce magic evasion... and for the fourth... i said conjurer did not cast attack spells "very often". stfu with your "pro" post.. really.
    I stopped reading at "oh you are so pro".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    I stopped reading at "oh you are so pro".
    you already stopped reading at the original posting where you "replied" to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    WHM has always been in control of stone, water, and wind elements since the start. examples: stoneskin, blink, aero, cure, poisona etc.
    you are partly right, although cure isnt water based
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    Maybe they have plans to expand upon this? 2 jobs per class? Maybe they're focusing more on the idea that the class will be an all rounder to what its jobs can provide more in depth?

    Either way I don't know why so many people are bothered.. >< Just because it's not like every other Final Fantasy game doesn't mean it is limited by that..

    edit: How else are they going to level? Let's not make levelling the primary healing class boring...
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    Oh yah, I'm a Conjurer 50 (Main) and I think they should give the nukes (aside from holy obviously) to Black Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endigiont View Post
    Oh yah, I'm a Conjurer 50 (Main) and I think they should give the nukes (aside from holy obviously) to Black Mage.
    Give THM/BLM the elemental wheel, and give CNJ/WHM astral/umbral. Pretty much the opposite of how mages used to work, but it makes more sense that way.
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