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    This thread would be completely epic with more of these:

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    Ah forget it not worth my time anymore, think what you want.

    ( still doesn't know why people are so uptight) but meh

    If you were in a courtroom and didn't have all available sources you would surely lose. That's all I'm saying

    Edit: Reinheart is twice the man you can ever be! At least he gives all sources to his "translation claims" and makes sure there's not a huge debate on his thread.

    If your going to make a bold claim, give all sources that supports that pillar. You say it's all over Twitter? Should be easy enough to link it to me? you won't do it? Either lazy or its Fictional.

    You made the claim not I show me "ALL" the proof. not a snippet

    If you don't wanna show me proof, then this is my last post on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Ah forget it not worth my time anymore, think what you want.

    ( still doesn't know why people are so uptight) but meh

    If you were in a courtroom and didn't have all available sources you would surely lose. That's all I'm saying
    I don't need to bring in the whole population of a city to prove a case. I don't need to find every single person that saw an incident. All I need are a few witnesses, and in that thread there are plenty.

    Edit: Reinheart is twice the man you can ever be! At least he gives all sources to his "translation claims" and makes sure there's not a huge debate on his thread.
    translation of the above: "insert completely unrelated and unfitting comparison here".

    Reinheart is not making any claim. He's providing a translation. The "twice the man" thing is just another personal attack.

    If your going to make a bold claim, give all sources that supports that pillar. You say it's all over Twitter? Should be easy enough to link it to me? you won't do it? Either lazy or its Fictional.

    You made the claim not I show me "ALL" the proof. not a snippet
    I provided you with an entire thread, with multiple people confirming it. That's way more than a "snippet". If that's not enough for you (very conveniently, as it disproves your claim), that's your problem, not mine.

    Starlord: Show me the proof!

    Abriael: here, have at it.

    Starlord: NO! Show me the proof!

    Abriael: here, have at it.

    Starlord: NO! Show me the proof!

    Abriael: here, have at it.

    Starlord: NO! Show me the proof!

    Abriael: here, have at it.

    It gets ridiculous after a bit.

    If you don't wanna show me proof
    I did, and you continuing to repeat like a mantra that I didn't doesn't really change that fact.

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    Afterwards, an investigation would would occur, and if there is no evidence I've stolen the car, well I'll be darned, I walk free!
    Only that multiple witnesses *are* evidence. So you'd walk free only if the investigation can disprove their testimony.

    Go ahead and disprove them, if you can.

    Mind you. I do find it absolutely hilarious that SE didn't try to disprove what they said (and it would be extremely easy for them to, if it was indeed false) but you two are ready to fly in the face of simple logic in order to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Ah forget it not worth my time anymore, think what you want.

    ( still doesn't know why people are so uptight) but meh

    If you were in a courtroom and didn't have all available sources you would surely lose. That's all I'm saying
    Well that depends on where you are at in the courtroom. *Phoenix Wright get out of my head!!*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Ah forget it not worth my time anymore, think what you want.

    ( still doesn't know why people are so uptight) but meh

    If you were in a courtroom and didn't have all available sources you would surely lose. That's all I'm saying
    Yeah, I'm gonna follow your lead and beat it out of here. I'm tired, for reals. There's only so much fun a person can have. I got serious stuff to do tomorrow, lol.

    I'll be back tomorrow to see if SE has said anything to confirm the allegations. If not, I'll just keep lolling at the tin foil hat wearers. See you guys tomorrow! And Abriael, if SE doesn't say anything to confirm or deny, just believe what you will. It's worked out so far for you, right? Remember, all you need is faith, trust, and a sprinkling of pixie dust! lol Ah relax, I kid. Anyways, G'night everyone!

    /wave
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I'll be back tomorrow to see if SE has said anything to confirm the allegations. If not, I'll just keep lolling at the tin foil hat wearers. See you guys tomorrow! And Abriael, if SE doesn't say anything to confirm or deny, just believe what you will. It's worked out so far for you, right? Remember, all you need is faith, trust, and a sprinkling of pixie dust! lol Ah relax, I kid. Anyways, G'night everyone! /wave
    Nope. All I need is logic.

    And the ability to discuss a serious issue without trying to spell ridicule and sarcasm on my opponent. It'd be nice if it went both ways, but what would be nice and reality are often two completely separate things. Too bad.
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    How would one "prove" they're an Alpha tester with an inactive account when they can't really post any of their personal information (as it's against the NDA to reveal you're a tester)?

    All we have is multiple people on several different forums (not on this one of course as they don't have access here in the first place) writing they received an invite without having an active account. I have personally seen posts of this on three different forums and from several people, some of them posting screenshots or quotes from the e-mail. I haven't checked those forums since Monday so they may be cleaned up already (as fansite admins don't really like having NDA breaches on their forums) but there was discussion on the subject on reddit just a minute ago.

    Sure, it can be a huge trolling campaign just to piss people off but managed to convince me. And these reactions remind me of the Arcanist ninja update: "HOW CAN YOU PROVE THERE WAS ANYTHING ON THE SITE - MUST BE PHOTOSHOP!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    How would one "prove" they're an Alpha tester with an inactive account when they can't really post any of their personal information (as it's against the NDA to reveal you're a tester)?

    All we have is multiple people on several different forums (not on this one of course as they don't have access here in the first place) writing they received an invite without having an active account. I have personally seen posts of this on three different forums and from several people, some of them posting screenshots or quotes from the e-mail. I haven't checked those forums since Monday so they may be cleaned up already (as fansite admins don't really like having NDA breaches on their forums) but there was discussion on the subject on reddit just a minute ago.

    Sure, it can be a huge trolling campaign just to piss people off but managed to convince me. And these reactions remind me of the Arcanist ninja update: "HOW CAN YOU PROVE THERE WAS ANYTHING ON THE SITE - MUST BE PHOTOSHOP!"
    apparently for some, SE can do no wrong. I'm giving up hope to discuss potential issue without resorting to unnecessary accusation/personal attack/sarcasm/passive aggresive whatever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    apparently for some, SE can do no wrong. I'm giving up hope to discuss potential issue without resorting to unnecessary accusation/personal attack/sarcasm/passive aggresive whatever...
    To be fair that kind of attitude is normally on both sides. It's unfortunate, but that's game forums for you.

    When I defend SE I'm called a white knight or a fanboy. When I criticize them, I'm a troll or a whiner or a crybaby. That's some identity crisis material right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    To be fair that kind of attitude is normally on both sides. It's unfortunate, but that's game forums for you.

    When I defend SE I'm called a white knight or a fanboy. When I criticize them, I'm a troll or a whiner or a crybaby. That's some identity crisis material right there.
    on the other forum you are famous as SE white knight
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