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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I'll refrain from going on and on about people's motives, as we obviously have different standpoints here. I'll just tell that when you call people "whiners" and "crybabies" and "butthurt" (what a bad word... using it really makes a post irritating), you're being confrontational and insulting, and I doubt you think that your alleged "judgement of people's motives" skill is infallible. If you do... well. That's more your problem than mine.
    lol If it was more my problem than yours, I would have been the one to get angry, instead of you. I may have been strong in my wording, but I stand by what I said. There were people simply "whining" like "butthurt crybabies" that they didn't get in because of some false sense of entitlement. Perhaps confrontational, but no more so than the posts I was talking about were annoying for being posted over and over and over and over and over. And really, if you're going to whine like that because of some sense of entitlement, you are actually setting yourself up for words such as like the ones I used, and with good reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Choice of words is always important, and walking around with a can of gasoline in a foundry isn't exactly what I'd consider sensible, but to each his own.
    Neither would I consider such actions sensible. Then again, that's a terrible metaphor to use to describe this situation, as calling people out for starting numerous threads to whine about the same thing over and over because of what they feel they are entitled to is likely anywhere near a parallel situation. More like "If you're going to walk around naked and yell over and over how you have the best fashion sense around, be prepared for someone to eventually call you an idiot over it."

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    -Only active accounts are eligible.
    -A bunch of people with inactive accounts get into the alpha.

    I'm sure it's not hard to notice the contradiction between the two elements above.
    -People post that they have concerns over how alpha was handled because of misinformation

    -People are angry becaue they feel their status as veterans in the game should net them early access, and are ticked off because it didn't, and post numerously how unfair that is

    Not hard to notice the contradictions there, either.



    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Strawman argument warning: No one argued that it's gonna be the "death of the game". That kind of negative press is damaging, whether it's a little or a lot depends on how widespread and on the issue at hand. But a developer has to try and avoid it when it can. And in this case it definitely was avoidable.

    Just look at how some of the press just tried to raise a stink about the same gender marriage issue. Luckily it kind of fizzled because the spotlight on the game ain't intense enough, but they sure did try (the funnies thing is that they ALL noticed it eight days later than Yoshida mentioned it, way to be on top of the news lol).
    Well, perhaps it's just me, but I have yet to see a game being brought down or even slightly damaged due to how a closed alpha was slightly mishandled, especially when a beta has yet to really happen. As for SSM, that's a slightly bigger and more contraversial issue than some mis-info on closed alpha. I mean, I was there for Star Wars: The Old Republic after all. I kind of undersand how that's a MUCHO GRANDE bigger deal. But a closed alpha session, an almost private testing of a game that will likely get at least one or maybe two more testing sessions before the game is released? Hmm.... nah, I just don't see it as a critical blow. But then, just my humble $0.02.
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    Last edited by SkyeWindbinder; 11-28-2012 at 10:24 AM.