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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I'll refrain from going on and on about people's motives, as we obviously have different standpoints here. I'll just tell that when you call people "whiners" and "crybabies" and "butthurt" (what a bad word... using it really makes a post irritating), you're being confrontational and insulting, and I doubt you think that your alleged "judgement of people's motives" skill is infallible. If you do... well. That's more your problem than mine.

    Choice of words is always important, and walking around with a can of gasoline in a foundry isn't exactly what I'd consider sensible, but to each his own.



    -Only active accounts are eligible.
    -A bunch of people with inactive accounts get into the alpha.

    I'm sure it's not hard to notice the contradiction between the two elements above.



    Strawman argument warning: No one argued that it's gonna be the "death of the game". That kind of negative press is damaging, whether it's a little or a lot depends on how widespread and on the issue at hand. But a developer has to try and avoid it when it can. And in this case it definitely was avoidable.

    Just look at how some of the press just tried to raise a stink about the same gender marriage issue. Luckily it kind of fizzled because the spotlight on the game ain't intense enough, but they sure did try (the funnies thing is that they ALL noticed it eight days later than Yoshida mentioned it, way to be on top of the news lol).
    LOL Dude what part of "You do NOT deserve to be in the alpha more than the next guy" you fail to understand? Chillax man no wall of text is getting you in ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    LOL Dude what part of "You do NOT deserve to be in the alpha more than the next guy" you fail to understand? Chillax man no wall of text is getting you in ...
    From the official application form.

    - Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account
    I'm not sure what part of it you don't understand, 'cause it sounds quite clear to me. I didn't make the rules. I just point out when they're broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    From the official application form.

    I'm not sure what part of it you don't understand, 'cause it sounds quite clear to me. I didn't make the rules. I just point out when they're broken.
    Maybe you understand already what I'm gonna write, but that line was merely for the application. It has NO HOLD whatsoever on who gets accepted save for filtering those into who can access the application.

    I do agree that it may be a bug/glitch, because I have a friend who attempted to access the application on an inactive account, but he got denied. That may be it working correctly, but then you have reports from others...it's not honestly that big of a deal because the applicant had to have a shred of interest to even get through the application. SE doesn't up and choose everyone from the huge masses - they review the application and, based on the criteria they laid out for themselves (WHICH THE RULE FOR THE APPLICATION DOES NOT APPLY), they choose the person.

    The application rules and process is independent from the alpha testing criteria and selection. The application merely filters through people who want to test from everyone else as well as provide their own personal information. The selection doesn't look for any other information aside from what was provided and based on that criteria, chosen. So the two processes aren't linked.

    If anything, the selection of alpha testers went smoothly. It was the APPLICATION which seems to be weirded out. But as I said, it may be a bug/glitch, as it has worked for others, and not so much for some.

    EDIT: Not targetting anyone in particular, but it seems as if there are huge misunderstandings about the application, selection, and the NDA. Maybe I should type up a topic related to those three instances just to clear things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    Maybe you understand already what I'm gonna write, but that line was merely for the application. It has NO HOLD whatsoever on who gets accepted save for filtering those into who can access the application.
    Eh not really. If you state something as an application "requirement", it's rather obvious that selection will be made between those that match those requirement, because those that don't can't even apply.

    I do think it's an non intentional problem, probably caused by the partial reactivation of all the accounts for the final event (thing that was really a bad idea in its own right, mind you, as it caused many paying customers to miss the event completely due to the insanely high traffic, but they already apologized about that, and I normally accept apologies), but in that case the correct course of action is to admit the issue and make amends.

    And I do think Yoshi's post at the very least tries to amend the problem, so that helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by lolodin View Post
    I dont think it really matters anymore whats done is done wat till the 3rd an if you dont get picked oh well no point in debating it anymore man :P
    It doesn't matter to the past, but I sure hope that Square Enix won't do the same mistake for the future. Count it as a friendly reminder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    From the official application form.


    - Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account

    I'm not sure what part of it you don't understand, 'cause it sounds quite clear to me. I didn't make the rules. I just point out when they're broken.
    I dont think it really matters anymore whats done is done wat till the 3rd an if you dont get picked oh well no point in debating it anymore man :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolodin View Post
    I dont think it really matters anymore whats done is done wat till the 3rd an if you dont get picked oh well no point in debating it anymore man :P
    Well said! I couldn't have said that better myself!
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